13 December 2009

Carnations in December | Cravos em Dezembro



'Cidadãos pela Defesa dos Direitos e Liberdades - Projecto Justiça Gonçalo Amaral' Demonstração de apoio pela Liberdade de Expressão e pelos direitos civicos de Gonçalo Amaral, gravado no dia 11 Dezembro 2009, vídeo por NC/Justice and Truth/PJGA

'Citizens in Defence of Rights and Freedoms – Project Justice Gonçalo Amaral'- Demonstration of support for Freedom of Expression and Gonçalo Amaral Civic Rights on the 11th December 2009, video by NC/Justice and Truth/PJGA

Read as well: Summary of What Happened Yesterday - an account of the Day 11th





55 comments:

  1. McCann PR looks like a YOB.

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  2. Mr Amaral comes across as intelligent and articulate.

    And honest........

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  3. Muito obrigada por este vídeo.
    Realço mais uma vez,já que não e de mais, a maturidade, o saber estar ,educação e controlo de Gonçalo Amaral mesmo sendo alvo desde 2007 de tanta maldade.Grande exemplo de dignidade.
    À imprensa de uk que o derruba constantemente e porque é PORTUGUÊS, responde em português.
    A uma repórter portuguesa,S.F.,ainda lhe respondeu uma vez.
    À 2ªpergunta dela...se tinha visto o casal...Então,menina,o casal não tem apelido? Casais há muitos e aquele edifício tem sempre muitos casais.
    Achei piada aos saltinhos e corridinhas de M.B.,de uk.
    Quanto ao S.da C. ainda bem que foi filmado em plena deseducação.Que agressividade....

    ***********

    Vi,por aqui, a foto de um Pai com uma Filha:
    achei a cara dele tão triste,triste,triste.

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  4. Not surprising that the Mccanns have chosen a PR stunt man just like Mitchel and Mccann himself. Uneducated ,ignorant and piglike...Joana do you have any past on this man ?

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  5. The McCanns sure can pick them - that PR is a lout - one more to add to the discredit of the "Team McCann".

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  6. oh Joana,awesome video except that j**k, lol
    Claudia

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  7. I wish Dr. Amaral and his family all the best. What a great man with a wonderful wife.

    McCann PR is very rude person, how discusting..

    Helena, from Finland

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  8. Que brutamontes !Coitados dos mccann...Se é este um dos contratados para lavar a sua imagem...

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  9. This guy didn't look friendly at all. I'd say aggressive. To talk THIS way to the Woman! ... Who offering some flowers to you, PIG! ... STANDING HIS FAT ... BACK TO THE WOMANS FACE?!!
    REALLY MCCANNS CHOICE! BRAVO!
    MR AMARAL BEING HIMSELF JUST CHARMING AND ELEGANT. WHAT A MAN! BEST WISHES TO HIM AND HIS LOVELY FAMILY!

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  10. Que grunho!!!!!! è este alarve que pretende melhorara a imagem do casal???!!!

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  11. Carnations in December. What an inspiration to everyone who understands their significance. Well done!

    Btw whoever gave McCann that bunch of red carnations he was holding in another video or pic I saw deserves an exra big hug :)

    T4two

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  12. So they hired a bouncer as the PR guy, money must be tight, even his clothes are classy. Some PR with that attitude. Still he suits the purpose and the type that they hire fraudulent detective agencies.

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  13. Interesting body language from the Mccann PR. He holds his finger up as in a warning, like waving a big stick, (as though he is really saying, "You watch out, I have a big stick"). This is reminiscent of right-wing aggression, a bully. Does he have political connections too, I wonder?

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  14. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLazKA9KTYk

    Feliz Fiestas a todos.

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  15. I see the PR man is 'on message'. 'Distortion of the truth' seems to be the Team McCann buzz word. They have come up with this phrase and will use it over & over again. Just like 'no evidence of harm', they are still using that one. if you say the same things over & over people begin to believe them. The McCanns hardly say anything now unless it is the same prepared message again & again.

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  16. Well, if that guy is the McCanns' Portuguese PR guy, it looks like they've given up completely on trying to "improve" their image in the country! They couldn't have picked a more unsuitable person. He makes Clarence Mitchell look like a decent human being.

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  17. The McCann's PR man is pig ignorant, bombastic and pompous; all the traits that Gerry McCann has! As far as the McCann's wanting to prevent Goncalo Amaral's books being published, it's clear that they are terrified of what he really knows, otherwise why would they want to gag him. This business of his claiming Maddie is dead and people won't bother looking for her, is a load of twaddle and the people of Praia de Luz know it. They have waited until he has sold a million pounds worth before getting on their high horse, and that should be pointed out at any hearing. They and the boozy pals who protect them really need to look carefully at their consciences (if they have them) and come clean about what realy happened that night in Praia de Luz.

    Have a happy Christmas Goncalo and family. Nobody deserves it more.

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  18. BRAVO, JOANA!
    Pena que TANTA GENTE não entenda o significado dos cravos em Dezembro!

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  19. It is interesting and ironic he accused the flower giver as believing in "freedom of distortion" as by the very nature of what he does for a living (public relations) he is the master distortionist.

    You can also tell that they (Team McCann) have come up with this theme in response to Amaral's bid to protect freedom of expression. Both Gerry and Kate are using the distortionist word as well as their PR people. The whole delivery of it has been planned out in advance to undermine Amaral's stance of freedom of expression.

    Joanna, Astro and anyone else who is in Portugual and doing their best to keep this in the public light, thank you for your efforts.

    Karmaera

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  20. Excelente video. Quem me dera ter la estado --- e que orgulho em quem la esteve.

    Anonimo @8: Exactamente. Que besta este Salvador.

    Pergunto-me se a Dr.Isabel Duarte ja se apercebeu que os McCann so se associam com criminosos --- Halligen & Metodo 3 --- e com gente como esta.

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  21. Not being Portuguese and not quite understanding the significance of carnations...

    It does remind me of the protests in the 1960s in the US when we put flowers into the gun barrels.

    Blessed be...

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  22. This guy's a 'PR man'? Crikey, let's see more of him. For one second there, I do believe he almost 'lost it'. Still, I bet his wages are good.

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  23. Joana & team, thanks again for all you are doing, and especially for keeping us in the UK informed throughout this. More & more people are becoming interested in what has been going on in Portugal after the McCanns' latest publicity stunts.

    :) E

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  24. Hi Joana,
    It's really difficult to navigate this site now you have changed it. I'd like to see some former posts...how do I do that? There should be an archive at the side...
    I'm assuming you wrote a post on Saturday about the court case? I have no idea how to find that...

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  25. Contact with the McCanns is dangerous and I believe in Evil.
    Even indirectly they make people sick and disgraced.
    They destroy everything they can.
    This is Evil.

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  26. Great video Joana, thanks for uploading it :)Loved the Portuguese Song in the background also :)
    I really can't believe that the McCann's think they can win this case, to hear just how important it is to KEEP Freedom of speech and expression in Portugal or anywhere for that matter....they just can't be allowed to change the RULE of the land in Portugal...as one guy says in the video...it would affect Journalists....T.V etc.

    If the McCann's win this case, then the world has went MAD imho.

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  27. This chap, the PR person hired by the McCann's comes across as uncouth. To speak, as he did, pointing his finger in the face of the lady who spoke to him, was aggressive and intimidating, even to watch. I don't know about 'PR' man, possibly 'henchman' is a more appropriate description of this fellow.

    A.Miller

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  28. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2770258/McCanns-to-take-twins-back-to-Praia.html

    Is Lazzeri from the sun cracking up...The Mccanns are using Madeleine for financial gain and now it seeme to be the twins turn. The Mccanns are the modern day Brady and Hindley...I do not mean child killers much worse...they are cold and calculating and have no problem using small children for their sick needs.

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  29. Excuse the following for being off topic. I have never until now read Kate McCann's diary. I came across it in an article in the press whilst looking for something else.

    Given that it is written by the mother of a 3year old child who disappeared when her parents where out dining, leaving her and her twin siblings, two years old at the time alone in an unlocked holiday apartment, to say it is the most bizarre thing I have ever read is an understatement.

    I believe this diary was written after Aunty Phil suggested it would be something nice to give to Madeleine when she returned.

    What strikes me most about the entries, is that in the main, they are about Kate and occasionally about Gerry. She continually speaks of HER pain, HER suffering, how SHE wants Madeleine back as this will restore HER, FORMER lifestyle as she is not happy with her life as it is at the time of writing.

    What I find odd too is that she writes 'M' for Madeleine. I cannot imagine every referring to my missing child, in diary entries or other, only by the first initial of her name. She does likewise with Sean and Amelie. Yet when she has something to tell us about herself, her activities, going to church or running, nothing is abbreviated. We see this in great detail.

    It is clear also, that she finds the twins challenging. So many entries about how she finds it difficult to get them to bed. Wasted days etc. Madeleine is the child who it is said was more full of energy, not a good sleeper. Did Kate have difficulty getting Madeleine to bed in the evenings?

    She is also very angry at the suggestion that they, she and Gerry, allowed contamination of the crime scene to take place. She expresses this by wanting to phone to speak to someone to vent her anger.

    Further along in the diary, she mentions that there has been a suggestion that Madeleine is buried near cliffs.

    Her response to this was: "What can I say?" She then goes on to talk about herself once more, how can one BODY, take so much pain etc.

    There is not the same anger at the thought of someone saying her daughter may be buried at beach/cliffs, as there is when it is suggested that she and Gerry were to blame for something.

    The self protection always to the fore.

    What I find most bizarre about this diary, is that it is not something you would want to pass on to your child if she returned.

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  30. She speaks of her pain, then includes comments in reference to Madeleine, 'IF' we have let you down. 'IF' you are suffering.

    She speaks of Madeleine being with paedophiles. Then comments - 'IF' you are suffering.

    She states also, that she hopes Madeleine's suffering is less than her own.

    A mother would hope that her child is NOT suffering at all. Not just suffering less than she herself is. She appears to be comparing levels of pain.

    She speaks of worrying about Madeleine as she knows that Madeleine FEARS PAIN.

    What pain could a three year old child have experienced that would make a mother make such a statement?

    If a child falls and grazes a knee, the child may cry. They may not like a vaccination, as it may be painful. No child likes to feel these types of pain obviously.

    But what is Kate McCann referring to when she states that she KNOWS Madeleine doesn't like pain. If she thinks her child is with a paedophile - she will be experiencing the most awful pain in every sense.

    She speaks of paedophiles at the shops? She speaks of paedophiles being held in 'NICE' surroundings, she wouldn't mind that, as long as they don't get to children. She thinks she should have been informed of paedophiles and then they could have taken more care, felt more safe.

    These are two medical professionals. Are they telling us that they did not know of the dangers of paedophiles before Madeleine, in their thesis, was taken by one?

    She makes comment on Amelie, saying that she did not realise Amelie could speak so well.

    Why would she not know that her daughter could speak as well as she could at the time? How can you not know?

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    A.Miller

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  31. KATE MCCANN'S DIARY

    THURSDAY, MAY 3: Milk and biscuits for the kids. I LEFT them with this and books and games and went to have a quick shower/wash my hair. M (Madeleine) tired—sitting on my lap—I read the story of Mog (favourite children's book).

    Brush teeth. To the bedroom with the kids. M pulls away and puts her head on pillow. Kisses goodnight for M. Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence.

    Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant.


    (NO MENTION OF DAVID PAYNE I SEE. OR GERRY FOR THAT MATTER!)

    FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not? Desperate.

    MONDAY, MAY 14: I slept well last night after a not very good end of the day, frustration with the FLO (Portuguese police family liaison officer) asking me where would my little M be.

    I got up at 06.50. I DEALT WITH SOME TRIFLES and got myself ready for the statement to the press at 08.00.

    (FRUIT TRIFLES, OR SOME TRIFLING MATTERS?)

    I tried to put on a slightly more presentable and "healthy" air. Gerry AGAIN Gave a great PERFORMANCE.

    Following on we answered about four questions. I almost responded to the first one asking how we were, but I didn't. I did answer a question on our possible return home. I replied that obviously I didn't even think about that. Anyway, it seemed to have GONE WELL well. After breakfast and our having left S and A, we went to church to pray in silence. Very good, calming.

    (AS YOU DO - LEAVE THE KIDS TO GO TO THE PUB, TO GO TO PRAY)


    After getting back I decided to go running—for the first time since THE day (already 11 days ago). I knew that it was going to be physically difficult, but I also knew that I wasn't going to give up, BECAUSE IT WAS FOR MADELEINE and also because the level of pain is far higher now.

    (SHE WAS RUNNING FOR MADELEINE'S BENEFIT)

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  32. SUNDAY, MAY 27: Clarence (Clarence Mitchell, Foreign Office family liaison at the time) spoke to us about a possible trip to the Vatican. It seems that it REALLY is going to happen—MAIN STORY ON THE NEWS!

    WEDNESDAY, MAY 30: (After trip to see Pope detailed above) THE KIDS WENT TO BED AGAIN AROUND 9PM!!

    (BEDTIME ROUTINE CLEARLY CHANGED FROM THEIR USUAL OF BEING IN BED BY 6;30 - 7;00 PM THEN?)

    Fed up again —poor M. Once again it took a long time before S and A were sorted. Finally went to church for 10 minutes.

    Private worship (despairing!).

    Cried again in bed—I can't avoid it. I need her close to me. Thinking about her FEAR OF PAIN breaks my heart.

    Thinking about paedophiles makes me want to tear at my own skin. Of course these people, like psychopaths, aren't "normal" human beings. I was never in favour of the death penalty, but these people should be kept in a secure place. I wouldn't even complain if it was in NICE SURROUNDINGS but, certainly in the case of paedophiles always distanced from any type of contact with children.

    Whose human rights are more important? Those of a paedophile or of a vulnerable, defenceless child?
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    (WASN'T IT KATE WHO LEFT HER VULNERABLE DEFENCELESS CHILDREN IN AN UNLOCKED APARTMENT ABUSING THEIR RIGHT TO PROTECTION AND CARE?)
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    FRIDAY, JUNE 1: Quite fed up...I can't stop thinking about Madeleine, about her FEAR OF PAIN. How can I go on knowing that her LIFE could have ENDEDended like this?

    Bedtime is becoming more and more of a CHALLENGE.


    THURSDAY, JUNE 7:

    I can't bear this. I can't bear being without Madeleine. It's like torture—a slow, painful death. I hope HER suffering, IF she is suffering, is much less. Please God.

    SUNDAY, JUNE 17: Cherie Blair (then the Premier's wife) phoned to find out how we were.

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  33. SUNDAY, JUNE 17: Cherie Blair (then the Premier's wife) phoned to find out how we were.

    I also had the chance to speak to Tony (then Prime Minister) who told me that we weren't to hesitate to ask him if there was something he could do to help.

    On Sky News tonight they suddenly said the Portuguese police had stated that the crime scene had been contaminated—BECAUSE OF US—and that fundamental evidence had been lost. How dare they insinuate that OUR DAUGHTER'S LIFE could be put in DANGER BECAUSE OF US Very angry. Very upset.

    I want to speak to someone now, but it's too late.

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    ISN'T THAT EXACTLY HOW THEIR DAUGHTER'S LIFE WAS PUT IN DANGER, BECAUSE OF THEM?

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    WEDNESDAY, JUNE 20: There is still no sign of Madeleine. I didn't feel like it so I decided not to go running.

    SATURDAY, JUNE 23: I woke up after 7am hesitating (again!) about going running but eventually I built up enough enthusiasm to convince Gerry that we should go. He ran quite well and without a doubt it was worth us going.

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    OH THAT WAS NICE

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    Will we see her again one day? HOW CAN THIS END WELL NOW?

    She’s so precious. God I need you to do something soon. I’m so desperate and suffering so much.

    This evening I felt quite low again. It's the awful uncertainty, helplessness and worry. It’s really unbearable. I only want to be able to hide or hibernate until this is all over and Madeleine is back. Please make sure she’s OK.

    The usual—dinner, a FEW DRINKS and emails. Good night. Good night my darling, longing to lie down.

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    I'LL BET YOU ARE AFTER A FEW DRINKS!

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  34. The Portugese PR sure makes the mccanns look what they really are, rude and bully. (selfsentered, narcistic)

    So the people, as their PR ;))

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  35. When you think the barrel can't be scraped any further - it does.
    Can fund be running low - morality certainly is.


    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2770258/McCanns-to-take-twins-back-to-Praia.html

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  36. TUESDAY, JUNE 26: I went for a short walk to the shops nearby. I had heard that there was a paedophile there. Nice, isn't it?

    If people informed us about these criminals of course we’d be more cautious and we'd feel safer!

    dinner, had a FEW DRINKS despite having said I wanted it without alcohol!! We talked some more.

    I’m so sorry IF I/WE let you down. I hope you know how FOND of you we are and that we would NEVER do anything INTENTIONALLY that would put you in danger—of any kind. You are so precious to me. You make me so happy and I miss you so much. Please God, please Mary, keep watch over our sweet Madeleine. Keep her safe and sound and bring her back to us soon! X X

    SATURDAY, JULY 7: We had breakfast and got the children READY AS USUAL. At 10.30 the four of us went to the Algarve Shopping Centre.

    The plan was to buy sandals and some other things for the children. However the journey was a DISASTER We had to stop three times on the way there, since Sean and Amelie were crying alternately.

    I began to feel that it had been a WASTED day, even though Sean and Amelie had some good goes in Noddy's car and Popeye's boat. The return journey was SLIGHTLY MORE BEARABLE.

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    TERRIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE PESKY KIDS MAKING YOUR LIFE UNBEARABLE EH/

    WASN'T IT A DISASTER TOO, GERRY SAID WHEN SPEAKING TO KATES MUM AFTER MADELEINE DISAPPEARED?

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    THURSDAY, JULY 12: I hate the person who took my Madeleine—the SAME ONE who has caused ALL THIS TROUBLE, who made us feel worthless and mistrustful and mainly who has frightened my beautiful Madeleine. I will never forgive that person/those people for this. Never. --

    SOUNDS ALMOST AS THOUGH SHE KNOWS WHO THIS PERSON IS!

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    Today I washed the Cuddle Cat (Madeleine's favourite soft toy and a constant comfort to heartbroken Kate). I was hoping not to have to do it until Madeleine returns, but it was now quite dirty and smelly, unfortunately without the smell of Madeleine on it. XX

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    SO KATE IS SAYING THE SMELL OF MADELEINE HAD GONE BEFORE WASHING THE TOY CAT?

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  37. TUESDAY, JULY 17
    Earlier today I found Amelie in our room looking at photos of Madeleine and she said: "I miss my sister. Where's my sister?"

    I couldn't believe it. I DIDN'T REALISE AMELIE'S VOCABULARY AND USE OF WORDS WAS SO GOO. I just said: "I miss her too. We'll find her soon." What a little sweetheart!

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    MAYBE IF SHE HAD KNOWN HER KIDS BETTER SHE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TO WAKE SEAN AND AMELIE ON 3RD MAY AND ASK IF THEY HAD SEEN ANYTHING. IF SHE'S ASKED THEM IF MADELEINE HAD GONE TO LOOK FOR MUMMY AND DADDY, AND THEY HAD SEEN MADELEINE GET OUT OF BED, I'M SURE THEY COULD HAVE SAID YES OR NO.

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    WEDNESDAY, JULY 18: It was suggested that Madeleine is dead and buried in an area close to the beach, behind the cliff.

    WHAT CAN I SAY?

    I feel my body's on the verge of collapse. How much pain and emotion can one body take? I had a bad afternoon. I was very worried, desperate, extremely on edge. I don't think I can take any more of this, I really can't. How much longer will this suffering go on? I need Madeleine ALIVE.


    MONDAY, JULY 23: I got up at 7.00 and went running. I was surrounded by a pack of dogs (more or less 12)—it really wasn't a nice experience.

    -
    DID SHE COUNT THEM, MORE OR LESS?

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    I went to the flat, high part of the cliff as I felt really alone and a little frightened. Please God, don't let Madeleine be buried here. Please God, make sure she's alive. Please God, bring her back quickly to us.

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    WAS SHE FRIGHTENED OF THE DOGS? WHICH DOGS? MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK THEM?

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    I took S and A to the Kids' Club at 9.45 then I went to church to pray a little on my own.

    Every single moment of happiness with Sean and Amelie, who are both so delightful, is mixed with deep sadness. All I want is Madeleine to be safe and happy again.

    Baths, stories and some BEDTIME CHAOS FROM SEAN AND AMELIE before I FINALLY put them to bed at 21.15.

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    BEDTIME ROUTINE REALLY NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE WHEN THEY WERE ON HOLIDAY IN APRIL 2007.

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    Night, night sweetheart. I'm trying to be positive. I need to be because I need to believe that you’re going to come back to me, so I CAN GO BACK TO BEING TRULY HAPPY. I love you XXX.

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    IT'S NOT SO THAT MADELEINE'S PAIN AND SUFFERING COMES TO AN END THEN?


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  38. -When the McCann's met the Pope _

    "Later on, Clarence (Foreign Office family liaison) told me that, before that (meeting the Pope), a butterfly had flown above and had landed on the bow on my hair.

    "Following on, it left, but it came back and landed on my lapel. An omen, we hope."

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    Right, have we to take it that just like the butterfly came, left and returned, that Madeleine, one morning will be in her bed when Kate goes to get the kids up for school.

    Kate trust us, there most likely was no butterly! I did read in the press though, that there was some sort of creepy crawly creature standing close by, reporters affectionately named it Clarence.

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  39. This visit must have brought back some lovely memories for them.
    The little girl will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
    This disgusting pair will slip up sooner or later and justice will pevail. They will then need all of those unturned stones to hide under.

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  40. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224796/Madeleine-McCann-Is-looks-like-today.html

    The Mccanns are planning to use the twins in their games.

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  41. Em bom português diria que este novo PR dos McCann é uma besta quadrada. E o dedo apontado sabemos o que é que ele pode fazer com ele. O homem parece viver ainda nos velhos tempos em que poucos amedrontavam muitos..Palerma!

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  42. Goncalo Amaral has so much class. He is a thoughtful, softly spoken, intelligent gentleman.

    The McCanns PR man could use a good PR man. He's a thug!

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  43. anon 39 what do you mean planning? they've used the twins since May 3rd when they drugged them...
    Gerry even admitted as much on the first Panorama documentary

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  44. All the media attention is making us look deeper and deeper. Hopefully someone will stumble on the TRUTH.

    The Smith sighting, the one they don't talk about... that was on the side of the village...and suggests a G look-a-like...
    Imagine this scene from a film: G finds M dead and decides he can't face accusations of child neglect so takes M out of 5A, to control damage. If body is hidden but found in place not associated with family, it was the monster that took her ... The body isn't found, the abduction theory takes hold, a fund is set up, someone thinks why don't we see where this takes us...
    Has anyone else considered this scenario?

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  45. well.well.seems the new pr is a nice chap,they have done well there
    to get a assett like him,=))

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  46. That guy is wearing a 'Delboy Trotter' coat.
    Nuff said.

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  47. Este troglodita é que vai fazer os portugueses "apaixonarem-se" de novo pelos mccann??!! Ai que bela gargalhada !!!!

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  48. just to say a big Thank you to Joana! What would we do without you? You are absolutely brilliant at posting all the real news!

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  49. Kate's diary is very revealing.
    I was just thinking about opening a thread for it @maddiecasefiles, but have somettrouble writing a conchise OP. It very much shows Kate for the egocentric narcissistic person she is.

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  50. Of courrse that should be concise

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  51. Anon 13. The child's vocabulary was so good. Why didn't they question the children?

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  52. Sorry I meant Anon 30 not 13. If the child could speak so well why didn't she get gently questioned.

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  53. I remember certain incidents quite clearly from the age of two onwards. If the twins witnessed anything that happened to Madeleine during that holiday, they may recall it as they get older.

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  54. LOL@1:42 - Martin Brunt getting the brush off!!! - yay

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  55. To A.Miller:

    Very interesting read and comments.
    Often, you have the feeling that she confuses the both situations : Madeleine alledgely abducted and Madeleine really dead. She starts with the prepared lie but it's as if her mind deviates and what she really says it's more directed to the memory of a dead child. For example:

    "I don't think I can take any more of this, I really can't. How much longer will this suffering go on? I need Madeleine ALIVE."

    It's perfectly understandable for a mother whose child is dead to say that. To shout her suffering, not to accept that this suffering could last more, so deep is her pain. She "needs" Madeleine alive to soothe the pain she has, knowing she is dead.She could carry on : '"I need Madeleine alive and not dead, because I suffer to much of her death".
    When she says that, she knows that M. is dead.

    When she repeats that Madeleine fears pain, that she knows they never would cause her pain, intentionnally, it's strange too. As she had remorses to have harmed Madeleine and beg her pardon, beyond the death, to suffer less. If she insists on her own suffering, it's only because she knows that Madeleine doesn't suffer anymore.

    They are a lot of fake sentiments in this dairy, incomprehensible reactions ( so selfish!) for a normal parent, but also imo, moments where her words fail her.

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