14 February 2012

Maddie McCann case: Canadian Psychics say she died in Praia da Luz


Though I'm very sceptic about psychics, I thought this blog readers might found this talk show, broadcast by SIC, last Saturday night at prime time, an interesting show. Translation of the Portuguese bits to follow.



Até à Verdade (To the Truth) with Rita Ferro Rodrigues, comment and analysis by Francisco Moita Flores, Psychics Brian Robertson & Simon James. Broadcast by SIC, February 11, 2012

Share ratings for this particular show: Had an average audience of 7.3% and 29.1% of share, that is the equivalent of close to 700,000 viewers, it was the sixth most watched on that day and the lead show for that time slot.

51 comments:

  1. Wasn't Gerry a Golfer? The police could have searched the cliffs and the surrounds too early, if this happen few days after the girl being missing. According to what came out from the CSI dogs, the body was on the car rented more then 20 days after May 3. The investigation needs to go there.

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  2. Shame they didn`t get Eddie sniffing round those hills.

    Interesting video - thanks Joana. Looking forward to hearing what Sr. Flores had to say.
    Louisee

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  3. Hi dear Anna, Hi Louisee, will do the translation of Moita Flores comments and the introduction (in Portuguese) as soon as I conclude Amaral's interview. Taking longer than I expected...

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  4. No rush Joana - it seems a massive undertaking for you - you`re such a treasure. Much appreciate your work.
    Louisee
    x

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  5. PSYCHICS ROBERTSON AND JAMES SUGGEST MADELEINE DIED OF AN ACCIDENT (HIT TO THE HEAD) IN APARTMENT 5A

    Interesting to note that their remote sensing matches the circumstantial evidence found by the investigation before it went into "cover-up" mode.

    This is after all the theory put forward by Gonçalo Amaral in "The Truth of a Lie" and for which the McCanns are trying to gag and destroy him. No wonder.

    It is also interesting to note in other respects their "remote viewing" comes close to that of Krugel's "quantum sniffer" except theirs is far more precise and thus easier to verify.

    Assuming the location they give is correct, Pat Brown might even succeed in retrieving the missing evidence that might, just might send the McCanns to jail.

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  6. MARCOS ARAGÃO DEVE DE TER FICADO COM UM GRANDE BALÃO!

    How is UFOlogist e medium Marcos Aragão "Sem" Correia feeling? :p

    Has he been in touch with the wrong spirits or was the Arade story just made up for the sake of a cheque from Metodo3/Madeleine Fund?

    :o Oh! Dear!

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  7. anon 6 if she died due to a accident theres no need to dispose of the body ,unless there was another reason that they had to dispose of her ,ie if she had been abused

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  8. Guys, my apologies but the translation of the PT bits will have to be done after I get some sleep, will start as soon as possible.

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  9. I feel a bit silly saying this.
    In the beginning of the footage they are in the apartment and there is a lamp.
    About four months after Madeleine went missing I had a long involved dream about the McCanns and the PJ and in the dream this couple were treated with much respect. Kate was also looking after my son who was then 4 and also went missing. Towards the end of the dream in the anguish of my frustration I went into a trace and saw Kate hit Madeleine on the side of the head with a lamp that looked like the lamp in that footage at the beginning.
    My heart stopped when I saw it and thus my inability to keep my mouth shut.
    Of course there was no blood picked up on the lamp so it was a false alarm and yet there was this dream.

    Did kate and gerry go jogging along the route that was shown here?

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  10. Did I just hear Rita F. say the in 2010 the McCann wanted to REOPEN the process??? When, how, what??? What did I miss here?! Does she mean the "review"? Rita doesn't know the difference between a review and a reopening...DO YOUR HOMEWORK RITA, if you want to be taken seriously as a journalist!

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  11. Please let Mr. Amaral be aware of this program, presto! (if he doesn't alredy, that is)
    The "investigation" concludes that Madeleine is dead! Now what will the McCanns do about it? Will they sue SIC and those who participate in the programme? They are "guilty" of what they are accusing Mr. Amaral for...
    I feel this could be used in the defense of Mr. Amaral, he and his lawyer should analyse this show and see if it can help them.

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  12. please help me to find out more about Gerry McCann / David Payne
    I red somewhere that both are registated with a number, and I
    would like to know more about this. Thank you.

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  13. Have a read at Textusa's blog, she points out the fakeness of the whole show. They say they are in the Ocean Club, but they certainly aren't inside apartm. 5A! Wouldn't that be essential for the "psychics" to do a proper mediunic job? How the hell will they get the "vibes" of what happened to Madeleine McCann in her holiday apartm.(5A) without ever setting foot in it? They are in some other apartment within the O.Club, do they think we're all stupid?! Or is their "gift" so extraordinarilly strong that they can sense things in "mock" locations...?

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  14. Eh, eh, eh..."do you know if there is a golf course near here?" !!!
    And Rita says she doesn't know, ah, ah, ah! Do they realy expect us to believe they do NOT know of the existance of golf courses in the area?! "a golf course overlooking the water"...oh yeah, those would be very hard to come by in a place like the Algarve! How many road signs publicising and directing to golf courses must they have passed on the way to Luz? And they missed it? I bet they either slept through the whole travel or were blindfolded...

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  15. Congratulations to Mrs. Ruth McCann and the team of decorators, what an "extreme makeover" of apartment 5A! Well done, Ty Pennington and his team wouldn't have done better! It looks like an entirely different apartment, incredible, they've even managed to change the position of the rooms! INCREDIBLE!

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  16. All that talk about pipes and water outlets and they did not go to any of it! Those would not be hard to find, everyone knows about those, they were all duly investigated by the police back in 2007, there are photos of searchers with dogs looking into those pipes. What a stupid lame show! Hope you're proud to be associated with this, Rita Ferro, and you too Mr. Flores!

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  17. that apt cant be 5a so whose was it, was it the second apt they had after 5a

    who bathed the injury

    it was interesting i wonder if the reporter asked them more questions in private

    they should have asked for a description of perpetrator

    thank you for this

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  18. "anon 6 if she died due to a accident theres no need to dispose of the body ,unless there was another reason that they had to dispose of her ,ie if she had been abused"

    Hi there! I am Anon 6. Think about it; particularly if the incident happened during a scolding. You know...exasperated dad or mum.........after a few glasses of wine..... slaps the child, overdoes it a bit and bingo!........... Also she could have been found dead..... They would want to hide that because of the repercussions that would have in their professional status and not least the legal implications for doing so...... that is, abandoning children to their fate in an apartment right next to a public road with doors opened - which was not as severe in Portugal as it is in England but they did not know that (my assumption)............... Of course we also have "Textusa Theory" which you might be referring to....... "I am going to tell Papa about David's Frankfurter".....indeed you could be right.......... it could have been someone associated with the McCanns. Someone who likes to talk about children sexuality and suck on his finger even if that sounds a bit far-fetching. They don't come through as monsters but given their non-middle-class background anything is possible.

    The fact remains the sensitives' description matches the forensics of the investigation. OK they were one or two alleles short of conviction, still, the doubt persists..... and remember those dogs were not barking for no reason.....................

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  19. i wonder why at the beginning one of them after mentioning an accident and a tragedy straight away goes on to see colouring and asking about was there a nursery is he suggesting she had an accident whilst in care of mark warner could this be? and mark warner with help of mccanns covered it up? might explain them to go on making so much money aided by the media and others nannies lying or is that too much conspiracy

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  20. @14 apparently Kate Healy and Gerald McCann have a CATS system registration number. CATS - Case Administration and Tracking System for the effective supervision and management of all police child abuse investigations and referrals including data checks, strategy meeting records, medical examinations, DVD interviews, police protection issues, joint investigation details, supervisor reviews, initial case conferences and review conferences.
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    Cartas Rogatorias Vol III
    Page 27

    Leicestershire Police Force

    From: DC443 J.N. HUGHES
    To: SIO, Operation Task
    Department: Main Crime Unit
    Date: 16th May 2008
    Refª

    Subject: Background Information- Gerald McCANN


    Dear Sirs

    In response to your letter of request, I can provide the following information regarding the above-mentioned subject

    Gerald McCann was born on June 5, 1968 in Scotland.

    He is the bearer of British passport No **********.

    He lives with his wife and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW.

    The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock Bank.

    There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.

    He works for the NHS as a cardiologist at Glenfield hospital.

    His previous address was 14 Queniborough Hall Drive, Queniborough, Leicestershire, LE7 3DZ.

    His phone number is ******** and he has a mobile phone Vodafone No **********.

    He is the owner of two vehicles registered in the PNC, a light blue Volkswagen Passat - R119 and a green BVV VW Touran, FM54 CXR.

    No record was found in the National Police Computer. Search reference NE91/0031.

    A search of the crime location and information system only indicates that Mr McCann was the victim of a theft of golf clubs from inside his car in the drive way to his home on 01/04/2006. Criminal Reference NQ/010145/06-9

    A search of the local section of the child abuse shows a registration number 19309 in the CATS system. A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.

    An examination of all other police files using a search system does not reveal any information about him.

    Submitted for your information.

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  21. @14

    Cartas Rogatorias Vol III
    Page 26


    Leicestershire Police Force

    From: DC443 J.N. HUGHES
    To: SIO, Operation Task
    Department: Main Criminal Unit
    Date: 16th May 2008

    Ref: Background Information– Kate McCann


    Dear Sirs,

    In response to your letter of request, I can provide the following information regarding the above-mentioned subject.


    Kate McCann was born on March 5, 1968 in Merseyside.
    Her maiden name is Healy, which she still uses in her clinical practice.
    She is the bearer of British passport number **************.

    She lives with her husband and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW. The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock bank.

    There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.

    She works for the local NHS as a GP in Latham House, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire. She is currently on maternity leave.

    Her phone number is ******* and she has a T mobile phone number ********.
    There is no record of either of her surnames on the National Police Computer.

    The search reference is NE84/0053/4.

    A check of the location of the crime and information system is negative.

    Inquiries made of local social services are negative.

    Searches made of the local section of child abuse investigation shows a registration number 19309 in CATS (system of action location). A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.

    An examination of all other police files using a search system does not reveal any information about her.

    Submitted for your information.

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  22. "A search of the crime location and information system only indicates that Mr McCann was the victim of a theft of golf clubs from inside his car in the drive way to his home on 01/04/2006. Criminal Reference NQ/010145/06-9"

    A Golfer, who never reported to the police( at least on the disclosed files) that he plays Golf. Instead, he went on with an overdose of Tennis lessons.
    How can a golfer come to the Algarve, spend there almost a week and did not spend a day playing Golf with Golf courts so close to the place where he was holidaying?
    No way. He must know well the Golf court and the surrounds of PDL and for any reason didn't want his days in PDL connected with Golf.
    For me this exercise of the Clairvoyants, is pure rubbish, but the TV must know well, that the case in some moment touched the Golf. Is the only think I can retrieve from that show.
    Anybody knows if the OC had golf packages for holiday makers, with Boavista Golf Court? If they do...Gerry will not have missing that one.

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  23. "They don't come through as monsters but given their non-middle-class background anything is possible "

    Anon 20 .

    This statement is ridiculous . Monsters can be found anywhere all over the world in all classes of society .

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  24. Searches made of the local section of child abuse investigation shows a registration number 19309 in CATS (system of action location). A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.
    (both for Kate and Gerry)

    Could this exist because Madeleine had been taken to the local hospital emergency room (suspiciously)frequently...? Maybe Kate was a case of Munchausen-by-proxy...or maybe Madeleine was always "falling down the stairs" or was prone to "accidents" and the hospital alerted the social services. NO medical records of Madeleine were sent to the PJ.

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  25. anon 26 there used to be this chap that used to drink in the local pubs( hes dead now ) and at the very mention of he word paedophile he would go in to a rage ,dirty xxxxs,id kill them,give me 5 mins with them etc any way he got sent down for doing his granddaughter ,just goes to show you cant trust any 1

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  26. @ 28 - interesting that he `protesteth too much`. Always makes me suspicious if people overdefend their claims of innocence. Like some people we know who have pre-empted the answers to any queries that may be raised. They think they`re being clever, or they think everyone else is stupid !

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  27. Estes Srs, com o que disseram no Programa, apenas vieram reforçar a investigação da Polícia Portuguesa e o trabalho notável que os cães ingleses fizeram no terreno e que foi crucial para se perceber que a Maddie não se encontra entre nós. Sim, porque é preciso não esquecer que a PJ inicialmente andava à procura de uma criança desaparecida. Não foi a PJ que à priori trouxe a hipótese da morte da Maddie. Mas obviamente, como todas as hipóteses têm de ser consideradas pelos investigadores, com o desenrolar da investigação e com a vinda dos cães ingleses percebeu-se claramente que afinal realidade era outra. São factos, e contra factos não há argumentos. O único ponto menos positivo que a PJ teve prendeu-se com o facto de ter enviado todos os vestigios biológicos encontrados (no apartamento e no carro que o casal McCann alugou) para um laboratório Inglês. Houve alguma ingenuidade ou mesmo desconhecimento dos tentáculos e influência que estes pais têm para que a verdade não venha ao de cima. Mas, será que não é possível investigar esse laboratório e os seus colaboaradores, porque eles sabem a forma como trataram os vestigios e contaminaram todo o processo de análise dos mesmos. Isto é, no mínimo eticamente muito grave. Que credibilidade e isenção tem afinal este laboratório? Nenhuma, zero, não são minimante crediveis e continuam impunes?? Como é possível? Demoraram um eternidade para apresentarem os resultados forjados e não é feito nada?

    Além disso e independentemente dos vestigios biológicos, há muito mais dados crediveis, há o odor a cadavér encontrado pelos cães em locais tão estratégicos do quarto dos pais como dentro do armário, debaixo do sofá, na bagageira do carro alugado pelos pais. Enfim, só por estes dados se percebe que que a Maddie não foi raptada. E os cabelos louros encontrados na bagageira do carro, localzados no local onde se encontra o pneu suplemente?? Vamos pensar, se cabe na cabeça de alguém que uma pessoa que esteja de férias ir colocar cabelos num local desses de um carro alugado?? Estavam lá porque era um local escondido, como é óbvio. E o odor na cadáver no peluche da Maddie que a mãe tinha sempre consigo e nas chaves do próprio carro alugado. E isto não dá em nada?? Tomara muitas investigações terem tantos indícios como esta.

    Há dados, mais do que evidentes para se perceber que a menina morreu e que os pais sabem TODA A VERDADE. Agora, basta a polícia cruzar este dados e resolver este caso sem receios, porque a verdade está à VISTA de todos. Basta agirem!

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  28. Anon 25 "How can a golfer come to the Algarve, spend there almost a week and did not spend a day playing Golf with Golf courts so close to the place where he was holidaying?"

    I don't know but the psychics saw a golf course - whatever that is supposed to mean. Do you mean he could be trying to hide a certain trip to that golf course?

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  29. Anon 26 This statement is ridiculous . Monsters can be found anywhere all over the world in all classes of society.

    Point taken. I have a working-class background myself... however the statistics show so-called working class kids are far more likely to commit crimes than middle class ones. This is partly because of a lack of education in their upbringing. I think.

    True the McCanns are themselves well educated but if you look into their background they don't come through as educated at all.

    Working class parents tend to shout at and punish their children physically rather than reasoning things through and forgiving the child. That is the point I was driving at.

    I mean a well educated parent with a working class background would be more likely in a moment of rage (and a few drinks) to hit a child (like he/herself used to by their w.c. parents) with some force and bingo! At least that is what the psychics are suggesting. I make no allegations.

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  30. IS THERE A SIXTH SENSE?

    Anon 25 "For me this exercise of the Clairvoyants, is pure rubbish",

    Not really! The subject of clairvoyance has been the subject of systematic scientific investigation for over a century!

    What often happens is that you have poor or fake mediums (think: Marcos Balão-Correia) and genuine ones like Roberstson and Simon James even if these are strictly speaking "spiritualists".

    Other gifted psychics dismiss a necessary connection with non-physical entities (spirits) and explain the phenomena in a more open-ended (scientific) manner.

    Consider Simon Bacon for example. A gifted psychic (he calls it "non-local intuition") who holds a Masters Degree in Transpersonal Psychology and Consciousness Studies from Northampton University who insists "clairvoyance" does not have to be "spiritualist" - it may be a heightened function of the human mind. A sixth sense.

    http://www.simonbacon.com/about/

    No one can easily dismiss the work of the Society For Psychical Research as rubbish without running the risk of making a fool of her/himself.

    http://www.spr.ac.uk/main/

    If you are interested in these matters you might just as well navigate to Dr. Courtney Brown site. All about "scientific remote viewing":

    http://www.farsight.org/

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  31. I disagree with Textusa. It seems apartment 5A from where I am looking. OK the place has been redecorated and refurbished since. May be she holding the map the other way around :o

    http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mccanngraphicd.jpg&target=tlx_pic6xa2

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  32. "Anon 25 "For me this exercise of the Clairvoyants, is pure rubbish",
    Not really! The subject of clairvoyance has been the subject of systematic scientific investigation for over a century! "
    When I said Rubbish, I didn't think in terms of ' rubbish because was done by clairvoyants' even if personally I don't believe on such power or gifts, whatever can be called. Could be a work done by scientific criminal profilers, all at the very top of their knowledge, will be rubbish.
    Is rubbish because in fact they didn't bring nothing new a part the hypothesis of a connection with Golf. The rest is all known and didn't pass to my mind that this guys came to Portugal to participate in a TV show without doing a basic homework.
    The beach, the pipes, the cliffs... All explored by Kruggel thesis. Amaral said on his book, without going in factual detail, that the CSI dogs were used also in different locations in PDL, also in the beach and they signalized nothing. I believe, they went to the places the police suspected ( and those guys are not more clever then the police) and to the places pointed out by Kruggel.
    If the guys came out with a flat or a house were the body could be hide on the first days, that really will be maybe a contribution and a huge step on the right direction. ( cont)

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  33. Cont:
    The Mccann's fooled the public and tried to fool the police when they pretended to pass the idea of not knowing the Algarve and the surrounds of PDL. Very convenient for their business.
    Of course they know the surrounds, by land and by sea. Gerry is a golfer and O'Brien loves Surf. Both admitted later to have been in Algarve before to do that sports. The papers reported at the beginning that O' Brien had surf friends in PDL. Why they took away from the investigation that sports and pretended to be Tennis addicted with lessons the full day? Anyone can smell a rat here. The same rat that made Gerry to avoid speaking about the Chaplins. Instead, they prefer to feed a very unlike dinner in the Tapas.
    SIC use to be a pro McCann station. Why they decide to do that show now?
    Nothing new, not even the impossibility of a guy passing the window holding a child. Moira Flores highlighted that dozen times before and Paulo Rebelo was pictured by Correio da Manha, trying to pass a doll trough the window. He end up having the help of another investigator to accomplish the mission. To pass that window, you need 2 abductors and not sure one don't let the girl to fall and ruin the all exercise. Hubbard's daughter, screamed to the sky on the first time they tried to use her to play Madeleine roll on Gerry Moccumentary.
    The clairvoyants really make a point, if one day they came with a house. A house is the more suitable location to hideca body on the first days, for 3 simple reasons:
    -There was empty flats/ villas known by the OC at the time.
    - To search a house the police need to have a strong suspicion and permission from the top of the investigation who was not GA, he was the coordinator but all decisions came from prosecutors and that takes time.
    - the beach, or any place outdoor was too risky, because the body could be spotted by dogs who could bring evidences to open eyes. The church was also too risky because of his nature, many people use the church and the Mccann's could not control the access to the church. Specially a church used by 2 religions and 2 priests. I don't know if that was the case, but many churches in Portugal have local people's ( mordomas, are normally woman's) in charged of cleaning the church and decorate it with fresh flowers. This cleaning and decoration normally happen on Friday or Saturday. Madeleine disappeared on Thursday, then having her body in the church on Friday was too risky.
    Most probably, the body was in a house and was transferred to the car when the Mccann's realized PJ was not buying their stories. They get scared with investigation and the possibility of having the place searched by the police with GNR dogs. Just my feeling.

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  34. ''Working class parents tend to shout at and punish their children physically rather than reasoning things through and forgiving the child. That is the point I was driving at. ''

    Disgusting, bigoted comment.

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  35. A STORM IN TEXTUSA'S TEA CUP

    @34 "I disagree with Textusa. It seems apartment 5A"

    Now 34 you have caused a storm in Textusa's tea cup by ignoring the simple fact she doesn't suffer stupid males easily. Now, you know.

    My advice to you is; leave Textusa to her own methodologies - not all of her rumblings are exactly regrets! She is lady with a gentleman's, left-sided brain.

    The point I am driving at Anon 34 is that the apartment (where the filming took place) is NOT apartment 5A. Obviously.

    If you were looking at the sitting room the WC would appear on the right, not left. You didn't look properly did you 34? and now Textusa has made mince meat of your persona - "snickering Anon!" :o

    Now seriously, I happen to know someone who works for SIC and who knows someone (technical staff) who knows someone who was involved with the programme so I am in a position (fingers crossed) to explain what happened.

    My source told me that the actual session with the mediums did not take place on location. Ocean Club did not allow the crew to film in Apartment 5A (occupied at the time) and for the sake of the mise-en-scène or "visual description" another (similar) apartment was chosen.

    A bit of cheating admittedly until you realize
    Mediumship or "Remote Viewing" for that matter, does not need you standing on "location" in 3D space! It can even be done over the phone!

    3D space correlations are irrelevant in hyperspace, the "M-field" (M for mind) where extra-physicals inhabit and/or sensitives (or remote viewers for that matter) somehow tap into.

    In other words, the fact that the apartment was not 5A (and was only included for the sake of description, "to tell a story" as it were) does not mean the information Brian Robertson and Simon James come up with was necessarily made up "to suit the script."

    I still believe SIC should have informed the viewers of this. Failure to do so was rightly perceived as an insult to their viewers' intelligence and make them an easy target to sophists like Textusa. If in doubt ask Rosiepops... :o

    Incidentally, I have just e-mailed Robertson & James and as soon as I hear from them (if I do) I will post it here. Might even send a cc to your friend Text in USA...

    :h Now 34 you can go and wash your feet. Textusa is looking at you! :o

    http://www.esotericscience.org/article14c.htm

    http://textusa.blogspot.com/

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  36. After watching the interview of Hernani Carvalho to GA,I would like to add something to my previous posts (35nd36). I still not believing in Clairvoyants but I respect who believes.
    The place has obviously a high interest for the investigation, due to a small detail GA revealed on that Interview, no matter if the police had searched the place with dogs on the first days and found nothing. The fact they don't found nothing, doesn't mean anything now. The body could be transferred to there, later. GA said when the police was searching with dogs, Gerry was there doing, what at the time the police believes, his own search. To the police it appears that he was searching a body, when the police was searching an alive girl. What I found very odd was Gerry taking pictures of the location. I don't want to be very morbid but the big question is WHAT WAS THE USE OF SUCH PICTURES FROM AN ISOLATED LOCATION WHERE THE POLICE FOUND NOTHING? At the time, they relationship with police was perfect and I believe they were informed about the results of the search and he was there in loccus.
    It is a fact, the CSI dogs found traces of deatth,body fluids and hair in the Renault Scenic rented by them. It is a fact, the same death and blood was found in the flat 5A and in the villa rented after, in different locations of this properties. Means, there is a body.If was Madeleine or not, the FSS played a dirty game and leave an innuendo, we don't know. But, what could not be dismissed is the connection of the Mccann's with a body that was transfered to different loccations used by them. Who knows, if the pictures where not to study a proper location to get definitly ride off the body?
    This pair doesn't stop to surprise me with the choices they made since their daughter disappear. Odd criteria for very odd things.
    Anon 34, the flat used by SIC is obviously not the 5A. The door entrance is different( compare the one from HC nd GA with one from the Clairvoyants). Everything is different, unless the 5A was completely rebuild. I don't believe on any renovation inside the 5A since no long ago, there was articles on the media saying the owner wanted to sell the property because is an haunted place where nobody wants to stay. Who wastes money on a dead business? At the end of that story, the owner must sue the Mccann's, not for what happen inside the flat, because accidents/fatalities could happen to anybody, but for letting the farce go so far and last so long. Probably, if the case was solved long ago, the story will fade quickly without damages to the OC and the 5A.

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  37. Ano38 "Go and wash your feet. Textusa is looking at you!"

    There is no need to rub it in stalker. I have since apologized to the mega-brain.

    Who paid you to hackle me anyway? You're not one of the Bronte's sisters by any chance, are you? :o

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  38. Poster 38
    You are abusing the sensible readers of this blog with your drivel.
    Joana's blog is not a platform for your multiple personlity disorders to exhibit themselves. Please show some respect for all of us who have busy lives and want to read a blog without having to wade through treacle.

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  39. THE KIND OF THING THAT GETS TEXTUSA'S KNICKERS IN A TWIST - pass the metaphor...

    I am afraid Brian and Simon, the mediums, are travelling at the moment. This is what their office had to say (provisionally) on their behalf:

    "Thank you for your enquiry.

    Both mediums are presently away working.

    Neither Brian Robertson or Simon James comment on any of these cases.

    We suggest that you direct your questions to Planeta Ideal, as they would be the best ones to answer any of these concerns.

    http://www.planetaideal.pt/index.php
    (other details omitted)

    Kind regards,
    (name omitted for privacy)

    Inner Quest Foundation
    www.innerquestfoundation.com

    I have since e-mailed Planeta Ideal and as soon as I hear from them (if I do) I will let you know.

    :k P.J. Tipps

    PSssst Thanking @38 above for the tip...

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  40. Humanist Post no: 10 Following link may interest you - hope you can open it - you need to scroll down to the vid clip

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  41. 41 Please show some respect for all of us who have busy lives and want to read a blog without having to wade through treacle.

    Oh dear you don't want to waste time reading the comments. They are all nutz and pumpkin seeds - even if it is me who says so. Just limit yourself to read the real article and the odd informative comment by Joana or her good friend Astro. Want something more meaty? Try the PJ files.

    This advice comes to you courtesy of "Red Bull" and is free of charge.

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  42. To no. 37 who wrote: "Disgusting, bigoted comment."

    :a Angry, just because you don't agree with it?

    It is a fact in modern Western urban societies that working class children (statistically speaking) tend to be shouted at and disciplined by their (usually) uneducated parents or in loco parentis.

    Middle class parents (university graduate types) on the other hand, tend to use a more softly-softly, reasoning, approach.

    Incidentally, the implications of such are well documented in pioneering experiments conducted by Davitz (1952) and Scott (1958) last century and are well-known to social scientists since, and I quote:

    "Davitz (1952) rewarded one group of youngsters for acting aggressively and competitively, while another group was rewarded for cooperative and constructive behavior.

    After several training sessions all of the children were frustrated when a movie they were seeing stopped and, at the same time, their candy was taken away.

    Observations showed that the aggressively trained group exhibited more aggression in a free-play period immediately afterwards and that the constructively trained youngsters reacted more constructively to the thwarting.

    Scott (1958), after reviewing several of his animal experiments that had obtained essentially similar results, concluded that aggression was the product of previous learning."

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/aggression.aspx

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  43. Interesting thoughts 35/36. Yes I suppose it would have been more helpful if the mediums had channelled some more interesting material such as you suggest. As it is, they joins the long list of "readings" and "channelings" so far, including that of Madera's high priest :d

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  44. I understand that the maccans declined to take a polygraph test, why not just take the test & shut everyone up?

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  45. my grandma had a dream of maddie and believe me it was so scary cos everything she said was coming before all was revealed she wont go public cos she says they will think she is mad but maddie has took grandma on a trail of clues to where she is grandma says she will go public as soon as maddie shows her the faces cos grandma saw 2 people from behind

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  46. strange and mysterious i think a few people are involved no-one would risk it alone and get out of there quick enough holding a child-- no one would run down a street with her either-- i think a pushchair was waiting --child abducters are not ordinery people these are ruthless planners they could have took her at anytime why make it obvious leaving windows open etc obsticles in thier way nah--- this is wierd --she will be found one day the police are not stupid thats for sure noone should underestimate the police.

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  47. It is very rare for 3 small children to sleep so long because of teething or waking up wet or hot or sick or hungry so how the hell did the mccanns think they could go drinking and leave them alone without anything happenning to them leaving door open invites any stranger in if someone wanted to kidnap a child they would not do it the way it was done a window for goodness sake even a amature burgler would not do it that way they would try the doors for a clear getaway a child is like carrying a tv so the door had to be the way in and out i believe the little girl was passed to someone waiting and put in a pushpram noone would carry a child blantly down a road or street ---if the guy did run with her she would have woke up and wriggled surely but thats if she was actually taken by a guy concrete evidence is the key and one day the police will solve the mystery ---- soon i think--

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  48. The location for 'remote viewing' is irrelevant, and a link to the site is unimportant, although some sensitives get reassurance from a physical contact with a physical object or a physical location. Remote viewing is an altered state of consciousness and there are no boundaries or geographic locations - consciousness can travel anywhere without hinderance. It cannot be done to order, although focusing on a topic or subject and questioning it can 'trigger' a view of a place or an event, either the same day, or the 'viewing' can happen unexpectedly 3 days later in response to the intent to question a matter. In remote viewing, the observer is often placed in the scene, in a room or a place, looking at events. Colours, light sources, furniture, sense of day or night, door positions, tables, desks, and people who enter the room or leave are noticed, and it is possible for smells (if any and if significant to a message being conveyed to the viewer) to be recorded. A remote veiwer can be disturbed by what they have witnessed, or recoil so much from a viewing experience that they exit the scene at will and shoot back into their body, glad to be out of that place. Extra sensory experiences like these leave a sort of fingerprint on the mind that is difficult, if impossible to forget, unlike other memories, the 'impressions' remain stamped upon the mind for many years, if not permanently, like an audit trail that cannot be erased afterwards. I have had so much remote viewing, and so many out of body experiences, that I would be certified as 'mad' by non believers and the medical profession. Happily, I am an age old graduate of professional standing, and am confident that I am as sane as anyone can be expected to be (if that is measurable?) At least two people are needed to collaborate in this case. A car was used. At some point it was in the car park close at hand. The parents had very cold, hard hearts, and put themselves before their children : that made them capable of committing this crime. To discover a fraud, look at the people first, not at the documents and evidence.

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