9 February 2013

NZ 'sighting' - For the Record



«Queenstown

January 4, 2013, 9:06 am

Queenstown Police investigating a reported sighting of missing British girl Madeline McCann say they have identified the young girl seen in Queenstown on New Years Eve and are 'absolutely satisfied' that she is not the missing schoolgirl.

Detective Sergeant Brian Cameron declined to release any details of the identified child stating only that this was not the first occasion that someone had contacted Police remarking on the similarity between the two girls.

ENDS

Media inquiries to:

Detective Sergeant Brian Cameron
Queenstown CIU»

in New Zealand Police Site, plus two more press statements here 'Child not missing British girl' and here 'Media Statement'


One has to ask why didn't S.Y. trust their counterparts in NZ, and what gives them the right to ask for the little girl's DNA?


Update Feb. 12, 2013 GMT

DNA Test Confirms Identity

February 13, 2013, 1:42 pm

Southern Police advise that they have received confirmation from Scotland Yard that a DNA sample provided voluntarily from a girl mistaken as missing British girl Madeleine McCann on New Year's Eve in Queenstown last year does not provide a match for that of the missing girl.

At the time of the sighting Police made thorough inquiries into the sighting and were completely satisfied that the girl was not Madeleine McCann. The DNA test result, as requested by Operation Grange - the British police operation investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance - supports and confirms the original Police investigation into the matter.

The sighting is the second of the same girl, the first being in March 2012. At that time Operation Grange did not exist and therefore there was no follow-up request for a DNA test by British authorities.

Police say that at no stage has the girl been identified by NZ Police. Her family has made it very clear that although they appreciate the concerns raised by the public, the family wish to maintain their own and their daughter's privacy.

Given that there is conclusive evidence that their daughter is not Madeleine McCann and has no connection to Madeleine McCann, it is only right that she and her family are entitled to a level of privacy that most of us enjoy.

The family has asked that their privacy continues to be respected and do not want any contact from media.

ENDS

Released by Detective Inspector Steve McGregor, Southern District Crime Services Manager

in NZ Police site

NZ girl is not Madeleine McCann

British police say a DNA test has confirmed a New Zealand girl who looks strikingly like Madeleine McCann is not the missing youngster.

A spokeswoman for London's Metropolitan Police said the requested sample from the Queenstown girl had been tested.

"Following a DNA submission we are now satisfied the girl identified in New Zealand is not Madeleine McCann," the spokeswoman said.

British police had requested the DNA sample after an alleged reported sighting of Madeleine in New Zealand, almost six years after she went missing during a family holiday in Portugal at the age of three.

There have been several other reported sightings of Madeleine in the Queenstown region in recent years and police said DNA sampling was a conclusive way to establish the identity of the New Zealand girl.

New Zealand police said the DNA requested by Scotland Yard was given voluntarily.

APNZ News Service

79 comments:

  1. Another load of tripe, dismissed yet again as just that.

    Are the public never going to be allowed any peace from this nonsense.

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  2. I hope this little girl's parents will sue the backsides off the McCann couple once the truth about this shocking case is made known to the whole world and not just to those of us who have taken the trouble to read the PJ files.

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  3. And a quote, which sums up everything, by Criminal Profiler Pat Brown.

    «Freedom of speech is not the same thing as stalking. The McCanns ruthlessly go after those who are vocal about the lack of evidence for abduction of Maddie and who wish to purport theories about the evidence that does exist. The McCanns could easily "turn the other cheek" by simply saying that they understand some people think they have involvement in the disappearance of their daughter because of their negligent treatment of their children, because cadaver dogs hit in their apartment and car, and because they have been suspects under police investigation, and, hopefully, one day, they will find Maddie and clear their names. They could also return to Portugal to cooperate with the police as requested, do the reenactment, and open their fund for scrutiny as to how donations were spent. All of these things would make people think more highly of them and allow the McCanns more time to focus on "finding" their daughter rather than dealing with litigation. Instead, the McCanns work to shut down any dissenting opinions and drag people through court and destroy their lives.»

    Couldn't agree more.

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  4. 'One has to ask why didn't S.Y. trust their counterparts in NZ, and what gives them the right to ask for the little girl's DNA?'

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    I'm not so sure that SY did not trust their NZ counterparts. And not so sure they have the right to ask for the DNA.

    This was not the the first time that this family had been intruded up in this regard,the authorities in NZ confirming not long ago that this wee girl was not Madeleine. Yet, at a time when there was the McCann v Bennett trial, and the story breaking re the libel trial in Portugal not going ahead - lo and behold - a DNA story to detract from other goings on?

    What is worrying here is,if this is the case, then who 'fixed' it?

    If this was my little girl - not in a month of Sundays would I have supplied a sample of her DNA!

    If McCanns/SY doubted the information supplied by NZ then they would have to get their sorry backsides on a plane and come talk to me, as if I had already co-operated with the local police more than once, my child I would not let be caught up further in their circus.

    It may sound harsh to some, children have to be protected from this pair and their shenanigans. They care for no one. They don't give two hoots about these children and their families who they put through this absolute nonsense.

    It is one thing to keep up their charade, shocking the harm they have caused to so many, not least G. Amaral. T.Bennett, but when they start to include innocent children they have to be told and in no uncertain terms to go sling their hook!

    It makes me so angry to hear they intrude in the lives of others in this way, no matter how it affects them, their children.



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  5. 'Child not missing British girl' press statement is from March, 2010 - why didn't SY ask for the DNA sooner? Why wait till Bennett's trial? Why is SY going along the McCann spins? The 196 leads that never were. The Live and dead Maddie? The "abduction" stamp, before concluding the review? The Brazil hoax sighting? Who are they trying to kid? SY is loosing all credibility for what? For £4 million? In that case they are corrupt and no better than Kevin Halligen or Metodo3.

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  6. Anon 6

    SY have been given their ORDERS FROM ON HIGH, which was to help 'give the McCanns closure', that everything that could be done has been done to find Madeleine, psychic leads and all.

    Yes, the guy said Madeleine 'could be alive or she could be dead', meaning since she was 'abducted' of course.

    How any policeman seriously investigating this case could ignore the dogs is beyond belief.

    We should not expect anything much at all from these characters.

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  7. I think the NZ sight is the recover of a old story by the British media to divert the attention from TB. If we compare the stories, they look the same. That sight was dismissed years ago, but will be revived every time the Mccann's are in troubles.
    What is really relevant is the behavior of the "The Sun" who seems have abandonned Mccann's ship.

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  8. Again the Mccann's not respecting the rights of a children. What a trauma for every girl they drag to that case... Having to go trough DNA tests and facing the doubts/ suspictions of not belonging to the family she is used to. For a minute, team Mccann have thinking about the stress and the pain they impose to that girls? What a selfish attitude. I hope the parents of the children start sueing the Mccann's and who reports the sights.

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  9. Amaral said things are not going well for the McCanns but he suddenly changed his mind when we see the panorama programme,which if i remember correctly he appeared.Also the comical quote from Andrew Redwood who said alive or dead,was Amaral told to keep his cards a little closer? Not saying this is true but it would make sence to an optimist that Madeleine will have justice.
    The dna story is a non story but i like to see SY putting a line through these sightings,it brings each one a closure to eventually move the investigation on from abduction to pastures old.
    Matthew

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  10. I see NZ describe Madeleine as the 'missing schoolgirl'

    Brings it home to you, that this is exactly what Madeleine would now be, had her parents taken greater care of her as they should have - She would would have been a school girl!

    Terribly,terribly sad to think the life she should have lived and enjoyed, the happy childhood that should have been hers, so cruelly taken from her, and for what, so that her selfish parents could go out on the randan(booze filled night out)

    It could all so easily have been avoided.

    Now it can all so easily be brought to an end, if they would do the decent thing and for once in their sorry lives step up to the mark and tell truth! They owe Madeleine, her memory, at least that much!

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  11. The point of the insertion in the British press by Clarence Mitchell on 4th February of a dead story from 4th January on the other side of the world is two fold.
    1 To divert attention from the trials.
    2 Because if anyone, anywhere is still searching, still testing, still investigating living children, then logically Madeleine cannot be assumed to be dead. And therefore the parents cannot be suspected . . . And therefore saying they are suspected MUST be wrong and therefore libellous.

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  12. SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012

    "I have absolutely no doubt"

    "One of the most common phrases that we were able to read or listen in TV, since 2007 is “I have absolutely no doubt!. Hundreds of “witnesses” were absolutely sure that a good number of blonde girls were Madeleine Mccann. But all of them just look at the girl and did nothing, like shouting, confronting the adults that were with the children or following them and calling the police, at the same time. 
    May be they had no mobile phone, like all the Tapas Seven, when they went out for dinner, the night Madeleine disappear. Ray Roberts, from Anglesey, North Wales, was on holidays in Malta. He saw Madeleine Mccann. According to the MailOnline, he saw a girl in the north-eastern town of Sliema wearing what he said was a jet black wig being told: "Get up little girl," by an Arab-looking man. "The more I think about what I saw the more convinced I become that it may well have been Madeleine," he said.
    But that is what he said to the newspaper. Police in Malta denied that Mr. Ray Roberts has filed any report or even contacted authorities. But Ray Roberts wasn't alone. In a couple of days, police had to deal with a total of 12 sightings of blonde girls that were – according with the “witnesses” - Madeleine Mccann. Of course, none of those sightings were confirmed.
    Belgian police had a more difficult task: 107 people were absolutely surethat they saw Madeleine Mccann. This is a phenomenon worth to be investigated. Is it a need to be in the news, to be famous, to see their names printed on a newspaper? Is it what Andy Warhol said, in1968? "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes?”"
    From GAZETA DIGITAL

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  13. This comment expresses pefectly how I fell too: "I don't know about anyone else, but I am pretty disgusted that a family in New Zealand has had an intrusion imposed on them by authorities on behalf of a family who didn't go out of their own way to actively search for their own child. Especially a Mother who refused to answer so many questions to authorities.
    If New Zealand police were confident this wasn't Madeleine (it had been reported she was *mistaken* for her) then why impose the intrusion on this family for DNA?
    Anyone else feel as I do, that if there were the slightest chance that this could have been my child, I wouldn't have waited for DNA, I'd have been on the first plane out there ?"

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  14. The McCanns Battle to stifle Free Speech and a Free Media goes on: Gerry McCann calls for press control laws – and 75% of the public agree - Poll shows overwhelming support for missing Madeleine's father on how Leveson inquiry findings must be enforced
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/09/gerry-mccann-leveson-inquiry-press-control-laws

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  15. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/09/gerry-mccann-leveson-inquiry-press-control-laws?CMP=twt_fd#start-of-comments


    Gerry McCann is to reveal on Monday that he and his wife, Kate, fear they have "relived our darkest days" needlessly in the vain hope that new legislation would be introduced to control the press.

    "Leveson without the law is meaningless," the father of missing Madeleine McCann will tell a Westminster audience at a conference for politicians and the victims of media intrusion.

    His speech, which will call for speedy legislation to implement the recommendations made by Lord Justice Leveson at the end of his nine-month inquiry, comes in the wake of a poll seen by the Observer showing that almost three-quarters of the public agree with him.

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    It's those child neglecting parents again, up to their nonsense in the Guardian this time around.

    1. So he will reveal in his speech that they have needlessly re-lived their darkest days?

    Madeleine if she is alive has been 'living dark days' every day since this pair abandoned her. And if she is not, perhaps that is the kindest, as if she is with the paedophiles which these two seem to think she is, then spending a wee bit of their time at Leveson playing the victims, and being as ever untruthful, really cannot come close to the pain and suffering of an innocent child re-living her torture by her captors every living moment.

    2. Leveson without the law is meaningless?

    Do we really think McCanns give two hoots about the Law in general? They high tailed it out of Portugal to avoid the law there, and have done everything to make sure it stays that way.

    They have shown their disrespect for the law as a whole and against individual law officers also.

    'Fucking Tossers' I believe was Kate's turn of phrase.

    And in relation to Leveson and Law - McCann has one agenda and one agenda only - he doesn't care about the press what freedoms it has or has not - I doubt he care either for anyone who has genuinely suffered by sections of,(Dowler family)

    Behind his 'The Law without Leveson is meaningless' is a man on a mission, desperate to shut down any avenue which allows for information relating to his missing daughter into public domain (other than what he and Mitchell createa)... This is not about his darkest night re-lived. This is about making sure their darkest days are not in a Court of Law being made to answer what happened to the child. Making sure their darkest nights are not spent in a prison cell. Making sure that the press don't report anything about how Madeleine came to be missing, that is, anything remotely truthful. It is about keeping from the public at all costs, that information. Other than that I don't believe McCann has a genuine interest in press freedom or otherwise, just a desperate need to self-protect.

    3. His speech will call for SPEEDY legislation leading to implementation!

    Well 'speed is of the essence' when you are running from the Law or have something to hide.

    A speedy trip back to Portugal to take part in a police reconstruction of the night his daughter vanished might have been a good idea.

    A speedy flight to New Zealand..?

    cntd

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  16. cntd

    I've said it before - How is it possible for a couple who neglected their children so cruelly, one vanishing without trace due to said neglect, who remain, though unofficially, the prime suspects in the disappearance, and where all evidence from police investigation point to their involvement, are able to acquire celebrity status, become financially well off, and held, in some quarters in high esteem?

    What does that say about our world, how we value our children, when a position such as this is allowed to happen. It leaves our children, future generations of children more vulnerable open to all sorts of abuse when perpetrators are protected.

    Child abuse takes many forms, and doesn't happen as some, for some unfathomable reason, like to think, only in poor families – it is, right across the board.

    The punishment also should be the same - right across the board!

    No matter any of our views on freedoms/restrictions of press reporting, Leveson Final Report and whether legislation in this regard should be implemented - McCann couldn't give tuppence, this is about McCann wanting his cake and eat it too. For those stories that he wants out there to still be allowed but others restricted.

    McCanns campaign is not about the legislation to control the press perse, it much more personal, it is about McCann his desire for control, and to keep control as far as is possible to keep the lid on matters relating to Madeleine.

    He enjoys many freedoms, is allowed to express them, but does his damn best to ensure that others don't enjoy those same freedoms.

    Not for a minute do I swallow his 'their darkest days being re-lived needlessly'-

    McCanns only interest in legislation being implemented is to keep buried their darkest secrets of the night when they needlessly abandoned their three wee kiddies, one losing the life she should have lived to enjoy.

    4.'Three quarters of the public agree with him'

    No, perhaps three quarters of those polled agree with him - not three quarters of the public!

    But no matter the percentage, everyone is free absolutely to be allowed their view and express their view on the poll topic or any other matter.

    One wonders though if among those polled, were there some who voted 'with McCann' on this as they are a supporter of McCann, influenced by the stories Mitchell and McCann have put out there, or was it strictly based on their feelings regarding press freedoms in general? Doesn't matter which...simply thinking out loud.

    If there was to be a poll on 'child neglect issue' relating to this case, makes me curious as to whether (assuming those who the support the couple were included) if they would still vote in favour of McCann, and not base their vote on the actual child neglect issue, he suffering of Madeleine, Sean and Amelie.

    The neglect issue, always a puzzle as to how supporters with such ease, brush this under the carpet, the victims young Madeleine, her brother and sister, how their five nights of suffering and misery can mean so little to some. These children cried, upset at being left alone. That should never happen to any child. Should never have happened to the McCann children.

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  17. Over on the Observer (Guardian's Sunday version) the comments are revealing an amount of scepticism unseen before. Gerry McCann has overreached himself by demanding more press control - he has opened the Pandora's box.

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  18. There is no doubt that those with something to hide would welcome the press being muzzled.

    Robert Maxwell (not even his real name), former MP and newspaper proprietor (The Mirror Group), the bare faced liar that he was, would have gone along with it completely as he was taking out injunctions and libel actions against those who dared to even hint at his misdeeds.

    Those working for the Mirror newspaper who had been faithfully paying into their pension fund for their retirement remained ignorant of the amount of thieving he had been doing to fund his luxury life style, until it was too late.

    Then they learnt that it was far worse than any of them could have even imagined.

    Maxwell was a bluffer and he got away with it for a long time, and the bigger the bluff the more people were reluctant to believe other than what he told them, especially any judge stupid enough to muzzle the free speech of the media who had been trying to inform the public.

    Personally I doubt Maxwell was all that he claimed to be, and he got what he wanted, and had people believe what he wanted, by being a larger than life character who bulldozed any opposition.

    He just happened to be found dead immediately before all was revealed, floating in the sea when he had apparently fallen off his yacht. His wife and son identified his body, (how exactly?), and his Israeli friends who, it is claimed he had helped for years, took charge by giving him a State like funeral, and he is now buried on the Mount of Olives of all places.

    So how well did that work out as he certainly had a good run on somebody else's money and was never brought to justice.

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  19. If I remember correctly, a sample of Madeleine's dna was never gathered for sure (unless it was on the rothley pillow), so unless the girl's parents' dna was also tested I don't see how her dna on its own could prove that she isn't Madeleine? Given the circumstances of Madeleine's conception, and questions about her parentage. Or did I miss something?

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  20. Não é interessante vermos que o casalinho que mais usou e abusou dos media para destruir outros, quer agora uma lei a regular esses mesmos media? Para quê? Para continuarem a violar leis impunemente?
    Lembram-se de Hewlett e da campanha de destruiçao massiça perpetrada pelos Mccann só porque lhes convinha que o homem assumisse o rapto mesmo que do paradeiro da filha, resultasse népia? O homem era quase perfeito, pedófilo, saltimbanco pelo Algarve e à beira da morte. Por acaso faleceu mesmo, mas imagine-se que tinha havido um milagre e tinha sobrevivido mais uns tempos. Que tempos seriam? Ter de carregar injustamente a aura de um dos mais mediáticos e maiores crimes da actualidade. Ainda que ele fosse pobre e um pedófilo convicto, isso não obrigava o seu cadastro a ter de albergar mais um crime só porque convém a uns prime-suspeitos que recusam fazer a reconstituição da noite em que a criança desapareceu.
    Já é uma vergonha, estes Mccann terem sido enrolados como testemunhas no Lev Enq. Por favor tirem-nos das camaras de TV. Chega de conspurcarem e terem tempo de antena. Vão mas é a Portugal reabrir a investigaçåo e contar a verdade como propõe GA.
    A reacção dos meus filhos quando vêm o casalinho na TV: " oh não, estes outra vez? Mas eles não têm mais filhos?" Até as crianças já não podem com eles e questionam o que andam estes pais a fazer...porque sabem que só a policia oficial lhes pode encontrar a filha, viva ou morta.

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  21. Eh! Eh! São tão "out of everything" estes Mccann. Depois de todo o burburinho criado pelo The Sun, em nome deles, para o PM rever a investigação, esperava vê-los agora a berrarem pelos resultados da revisão.
    Em relaçao a isso, reina o black out, esperando por certo que a SY faça uma retirada à Paulo Rebelo, secreta e "smooth" para não levantar ondas e nāo terem de assumir que GA estava na pista certa.

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  22. Os McCann já sabem quais são os resultados da 'revisão' - e nós também desde que o DCI Andy Redwood afirmou que a Madeleine tinha sido raptada em ñ canais de televisão ingleses no dia 25 de Abril 2012 (repara na data). Não há outra leitura possível.

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  23. Dafty News supports Joana Morais:

    This is just another, dare we say it. smokescreen.
    Anyway, our thoughts are best described in our article about this:
    http://www.daftynews.com/new-zealand-girl-is-not-madeleine-mccann.htm

    Blessings to you Joana and all your readers.
    Stephen from Dafty News

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  24. @18

    Gerry McCann has overreached himself by demanding more press control - he has opened the Pandora's box.

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    Indeed he has!

    This latest outburst perhaps one of his biggest temper tantrums to date. As that is what this is. If McCann does not get his own way, Mr. Angry rears his ugly head. Kate then slips into the role of the 'little woman.' McCann suited and booted, Kate takes up position two steps behind, hair unkempt, in her latest duffle coat, underneath her grannies old twin set, and pleads with him in her grating voice...'Gerry, please, Gerry...as he wreaks his wrath on whoever is in his path...

    All in an effort to gain sympathy, but somehow by magic, when there is a book to sell, a tv slot in which to do so, her fairy godmother appears and transforms her overnight!

    Do not be fooled by the schizophrenic behaviour, one moment the duffle coat clad little woman the next, glammed-up for the hard sell.

    Oh yes, Kate is an actress there is no doubt of that, she plays her partS well!

    Never for a moment, think that this lady is the weak one of the two.

    When declared arguidos -

    Gerry McCann was visibly upset, shocked, he looked frightened. The arrogant bad tempered Gerry, the stuffing knocked out of him.

    Kate? She couldn't give a monkey's cuss! Bold as brass!

    cntd

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  25. cntd

    Her behaviour throughout, since the world first became aware of missing Madeleine has far from been normal, the stories she tells, how she lies with ease (which we have all witnessed in her interviews where from one to another the story changes) her coldness, she displays a complete lack of feeling or emotion for anything or anyone who comes in her contact.

    Of the two, Kate is the one to watch, the more cunning devious! I believe she is the one being protected.

    Of the two, if one was to crack - it would be Gerry. Kate could give it all away not because she would crack, but because she cannot help herself, doesn’t know when to keep her mouth shut, she is a bit of a ticking time bomb! Gerry always nervously monitoring her every word in interview, reining her in!

    Whatever condition/or her make-up is - this woman craves attention. It is all about her. So keeping her lid screwed tightly down is no mean feat.

    Her book is a classic example of this. There is very little mention of the missing child –

    Madeleine makes but a brief appearance, in 'Madeleine.'

    This book is about Kate, it was her moment to take, centre-stage and no one, not even wee Madeleine was going to spoil it for her. Her Diary too was about Kate, deranged ramblings, of her pain, and wondering if Madeleine was suffering as much as she herself was.

    Jaw dropping stuff - competing with the child's pain!

    But as we have come to see also, it is a book which is getting her into a whole lot of trouble, she has put in print as Goncalo Amaral said, a piece which one day quite probably will become evidence.

    She is more than a worry to Team McCann.

    From early days too, Kate thought only of Kate:

    'If I weighed another two stone, had a bigger bosom and looked more maternal, people would be more sympathetic.'

    We can have maternal instincts, act in a way maternal - but 'looks' are not a gauge of how maternal one is!

    cntd

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  26. cntd

    More to the point - why would any mum - no matter their bra size, or what digits the weighing scales flash - having just lost their first born child have such ridiculous thoughts?

    That is NOT maternal! To be thinking of yourself at a time, when your little one, if alive no matter who with, or even if alone somewhere must have been experiencing tremendous fear, a fear most of us unless having experienced it, could not come close to understanding.

    She was not thinking of herself as a mother would – as in racked with guilt at the treatment she had meted out her children leading to the loss of one – it was about her. Both the book and the diary both extraordinary – both have the public gasping in disbelief at how little of Madeleine.

    She seems oblivious to this that she has written about Kate and not her missing daughter. The child’s name simply what would sell it!

    I cannot come close to understanding this woman!

    cntd

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  27. cntd

    1. She has clearly not been truthful about the events of the night her child vanished.

    2. She clearly showed no maternal instincts no thought for her children their welfare or safety. She and he, neglected them, left them to their fate while they put themselves first. Their priority was not Amelie, Sean and Madeleine. It was themselves, their friends.

    When I first realised that Kate and Gerry McCann left those three tots alone every night, some nights they claim in an unlocked apartment, and when I heard McCanns say they ignored what the child told them that very morning, that she and her siblings had been crying in their absence the previous night, and they AGAIN walked out and left them –

    My first reaction was not to ask – WHAT BRA SIZE DOES THE MOTHER WEAR?

    There is something quite seriously wrong in my opinion with Kate McCann, and it is not simply a lack of maternal instinct if she is deluded to imagine that anyone, anywhere in the world was more interested in her appearance than that of a missing child!
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    But to Gerry, and his feeling that he and Kate needlessly re-lived their darkest day -

    Strange from a couple who had their book ‘Madeleine’ serialised in the press, no?

    How do they define ‘needlessly’ by the ‘£’ sign? Would seem so!
    Of course there will be those who will defend this, by saying it was for Madeleine.

    Not a jot to do with Madeleine. This book was about, Kate getting her story out there, not the truth, but her story. They feared so much the words of Goncalo Amaral, his book ever being available in the UK, feared that the public in the UK could go out and purchase a copy of Truth of Lie. Feared, that they should know the truth.


    She had to get in first with ONE of her accounts (there are a few as we all know) there was also a little matter of balancing the books!

    cntd

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  28. cntd

    It is this same fear which drives them in their quest to have input in campaigning for this legislation.

    As to Fund – they knew the Fund was in a mess and had to be ‘sorted’ pronto.

    Let us face it. The past weeks we are hearing that Fund balance is in region £474,000. We are hearing MORE of how Kate made a sacrifice and donated her £1m book proceeds to the Fund. (A McCann story, one they needed to be ‘out there’ one Gerry did not want controlled, in this instance they wanted Kate’s “sacrifice” to be made public) No mathematician but had she not, then this Fund was ‘in the red.’

    The £1m did not directly go on efforts to find Madeleine – it cleared debts! And what would those debts be I wonder?

    They tell us Carter Ruck work for free as do others – to be in the red as they would have been an indicator of overspending – mis-management!

    Now they are back ‘in the black’ to tune of £474,000 – when does spending commence to help the missing child? Oh but they don’t need to they tell us, UK taxpayer is paying for that at the moment – but if they could still donate to their Fund it would be helpful.

    Now they may tell us they are not physically searching at present and not since around April/May 2012 have they done so, but are they not going to put effort in elsewhere, use that money to help find their child. This campaign we always here of but there is no visible evidence not here in UK or elsewhere what does it entail? And if it cannot be seen, and there is no search, there is no private detective being paid – What is going on and what is the money being spent on?

    cntd

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  29. cntd

    Apologies for digressing somewhat – but back to our darling couple, their need to make every effort to show their support to have – Leveson MEAN SOMETHING by legislation being applied – their aim is quite simple, to close down all avenues where they feel information could stem from, that is information they do not the public to be made aware of.

    It is self- protection at its most desperate and crude.

    The effrontery of McCann knows no bounds. There is no depth they will not stoop! But as you say the box is now open. Perhaps the press will keep churning out his tales of woe, of how he would like it controlled, and perhaps the press may unleash on McCann – a sharp sting in his tail!

    To leave the McCanns for the moment -


    A 30 year old man has been arrested following the death of a 3 year old child in a house in Sheffield
    http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/story/2013-02-10/child-murder-probe-in-sheffield/

    News of this, on the day, the 20th Anniversary of James Bulger’s murder, a day when his mum will appeal for one of the killers to be kept behind bars believing he remains a danger to children.

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  30. now the POPE has resigned!

    HE states: "having repeatedly examined my conscience before God....,"

    what does he know about all the corruption???

    so many things (human, animal or inanimate objects) connected with the mcLiars, come to grief.

    aunty anti

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  31. Thank you so much dear Stephen, big hug from Lisboa :)

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  32. 'Leveson without the law is meaningless' - Gerry McCann
    by Roy Greenslade

    Gerry McCann will step up the pressure on MPs today to create a new press regulator with statutory underpinning.

    The father of the missing girl, Madeleine McCann, is set to tell a Westminster conference organised by the campaigning group Hacked Off that "Leveson without the law is meaningless."

    According to an advance release of his speech, McCann will say: "The Leveson package, including the legal underpinning, is the minimum acceptable compromise for us, and judging by the polls, for the public at large too."

    The poll he refers to was conducted by YouGov for the Media Standards Trust (which is linked to Hacked Off). It found that 53% of respondents believe statute is necessary to make the regulator effective and independent, and just 23% think statutory underpinning will put at risk the freedom of the press.

    Asked whether Leveson's recommendations should be implemented in full, 74% said they should compared to 9% who said they should not.

    The poll also indicates an even bigger proportion – 83% – want more distance between politicians and the media, or at least greater transparency about the relationship. (I have no details as yet of the sample and how it was conducted).

    But it should be noted that more than half of all respondents said they had followed the issue either "not very closely" or "not at all".

    In his keynote speech, McCann is expected to say:

    "Kate and I had the misfortune to suffer from everything the press could throw at us. The reason we subsequently agreed to the ordeal of giving evidence to the Leveson inquiry was that we don't want anyone else to have to go through what we went through.

    The idea that Kate and myself, and the other victims, might have relived our darkest days in the full glare of the media, for no good reason, is just galling.

    When the prime minister promised to protect those who have been 'picked up and thrown to the wolves' by this process, we hoped for real change."

    Gerry and Kate McCann were paid damages by several newspapers guilty of gross misreporting following the disappearance in Portugal of their three year-old daughter in May 2007.

    Other victims of media intrusion will be joined at Westminster the by shadow culture secretary, Harriet Harman, and the Lib-Dem justice minister Lord McNally.

    David Cameron has made clear his opposition to statutory underpinning of a new regulator, arguing that it would "cross the Rubicon" after centuries of press freedom.

    Sources: The Observer/msn news/Press Gazette
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2013/feb/11/madeleinemccann-leveson-report

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  33. Missing Ellie’s father quizzed in court for 12 hours
    by Carrie-Marie Bratley, in General · 09-02-2013 15:28:00

    Portuguese national Filipe Silva, who is suspected of kidnapping his eight-year-daughter and keeping her from her Irish mother for seven months, was quizzed in a Faro court yesterday (9 February) for twelve hours after being located and detained by PJ police in Lisbon the day before. He is reportedly refusing to reveal the whereabouts of his daughter, but guarantees she is well.
    Missing Ellie’s father quizzed in court for 12 hours

    The little girl's mother Candice Gannon said: “Faro Policia Judiciaria should be commended for their excellent work in locating, arresting and detaining Filipe Silva. I am forever grateful to them for all their help and hard work. Ellie has still not been located but I am hopeful that she will be found soon.”

    Eight-year-old Giselle Silva - known as Ellie - has been kept from seeing her mother for seven months, in direct breach of the mother's custodial rights and of a court order issued in September 2012 instructing her immediate return.

    She was taken into hiding by her father, 35-year-old Filipe Silva, after he failed to return her to her mother, Irish national Candice Gannon, following a two-week holiday last July.

    On Friday (8 February) Ellie's mother’s lawyer Spencer Dohner issued a statement confirming that the Faro Prosecutor’s Office had instructed the PJ police to locate Filipe Silva for the crime of Aggravated Kidnapping, which carries a prison sentence of up to ten years. An arrest warrent was also issued for him for Aggravated Kidnapping on the international Schengen Alert System.

    Hours later PJ police announced that Silva had been arrested by a Faro PJ officer near Lisbon and was transferred immediately to the Algarve.

    He was quizzed in Faro court on Saturday (9 February) for around 12 hours and taken to Faro Prison after leaving court at 10pm that evening. He has reportedly refused to disclose the whereabouts of his daughter, allegedly saying he would rather do time in prison than reveal where his daughter is.

    Before being taken by her father Ellie lived in Madeira, where she went to school, with her mother, her rightful custodian, stepfather and sister. Silva's last known address was in Vilamoura, the Algarve.

    http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/missing-ellies-father-quizzed-in-court-for-12-hours/27738

    Please check picture here http://www.reuniteellie.com/

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  34. Apparently Ellie has been located (updated 1 hour ago) here https://www.facebook.com/reunite.ellie

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  35. @ 32

    now the POPE has resigned!

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    Divine intervention - that should keep Gerry's - Leveson without the Law - off the front pages!

    There are some things you just cannot legislate for!

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  36. Congratulations to PJ( regarding Ellie).
    I don't understand why the British citizens still looking at the Mccann's circus without reacting. Their games deserve a big reaction/ protest from the public with pacific placcards asking the Mccann's to go to Portugal and do the reconstruction of the last day of their daughter.

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  37. Leveson without the law is no change – Dr Gerry McCann

    Posted February 11th, 2013 by Hacked Off & filed under News.

    Today, at the Hacked Off conference on the Leveson Bill, Dr Gerry McCann gave the keynote speech on where we are now, two and a half months after Lord Justice Leveson published his recommendations on press regulation. This is his speech in full.

    Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen.

    I don’t often find myself making speeches at events like this. But I’m happy to do so for Hacked Off, because I passionately believe in the cause. And now is a critical time for the campaign.

    We are at a crossroads. In one direction, the prospect of lasting change to the failed system of press regulation, based on the painstaking work of Lord Justice Leveson. In the other, attempts to brush the problem under the carpet – to create a fix – so that nothing really changes.

    Our elected politicians face a critical choice. They can either do what Leveson recommends – wholeheartedly and properly – or they can turn their backs on the issue, and turn their backs on us, the victims of press abuse.

    Kate and I had the misfortune to suffer the worst that the press could throw at us.

    • We were labelled as murderers without a shred of evidence.

    • Stories were published saying our daughter was dead – over and over again, with no evidence.

    • We were subjected to round-the-clock intrusion at a time of terrible stress, with photographers camped outside our door.

    • We were intimidated. Our young children, especially, were scared out of their wits.

    • My wife’s private diary, revealing her innermost thoughts in her darkest days, was published without her consent.

    • Rumours were dressed up as the truth

    • and downright lies became front-page news. One newspaper claimed that we sold Madeleine into slavery in order to pay off our mortgage.

    The slurs went on for months- despite our best efforts: Meetings with editors, assurances from our lawyers, a letter from the chief constable of Leicestershire police calling for restraint- all ignored. And they continued for the simple reason that there was no-one and nothing with the power to stop them.

    People say: ‘Your experience was so unusual, we can’t draw any lessons from it.’ Well I disagree. Our experience was extreme, but it was a consequence of the same sick culture that led to the abuse of many other people, some of whom are here in this room today.

    An insatiable hunt for headlines combined with a total lack of respect for other people. The mentality that can turn a family’s distress into cold, hard cash. Profit from misery.

    In our case it led to the sacrifice, not only of the truth, but of our dignity, privacy, well-being and most importantly the search for our missing daughter, Madeleine.

    I believe we have a responsibility, as decent citizens in a democratic and caring society, to learn lessons from it. (...)

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  38. The parliamentary select committee on the media said in 2010:

    “The newspaper industry’s assertion that the McCann case is a one-off event shows that it is in denial about the scale and gravity of what went wrong and about the need to learn from those mistakes. The industry’s words and actions suggest a desire to bury the affair without confronting its serious implications, the kind of avoidance which newspapers would criticise mercilessly and rightly if it occurred in any other part of society.”

    Three years later, I see little remorse, no contrition. Sections of the press are still in denial. The sick culture has not changed, and they can’t be trusted to change it of their own accord.

    If you look at the reporting of the Leveson Inquiry and the behaviour of some newspapers since then, it’s clear that they aren’t sorry and they still think they should not have to answer to anyone when they publish harmful lies and distortions.

    The reason Kate and I put ourselves through the ordeal of giving evidence to Leveson was simple: Nobody should have to endure what we went through. A system has to be put in place to protect ordinary people from the devastating damage that the media can cause.

    When David Cameron set up the Leveson Inquiry he said in parliament: “We must keep the public – and the victims of what has now emerged – front and centre at all times.” And he also said: ‘We will have to be guided by what the inquiry finds.”

    When he gave his own evidence to the Leveson inquiry he promised to protect the people who have been thrown to the wolves as we were. We saw this as grounds for hope that we’d see real change.

    What Lord Leveson proposed last November is not tough on the press and it’s not a threat to free speech. For me personally, he did not go far enough. It seems to me that the judge did everything he could to make his proposals workable for the newspapers while giving the public some protection.

    In the end they get to regulate themselves, which is something very few industries are allowed to do, and which many people felt they had lost the right to do so.

    For us and for other victims of press abuses, Leveson’s proposal is the minimum acceptable compromise – and, judging by the opinion polls, the public feels the same way.

    But what has happened? Two and a half months on we can see precious little progress towards implementation of Leveson, and we are hearing backsliding words from politicians. This is an opportunity for our elected MP’s, whose reputation with the British public is at an all time low, to redeem themselves. The Leveson report is not something to be negotiated with their friends in the press. Any watering down of the Leveson plan now, whether in a Bill or a Royal Charter or whatever, would be like surrendering to the press and saying the whole Leveson process was a waste of time.

    And the idea that Kate and I, and all those other victims, might have relived our darkest days in the full glare of the media, for no good reason, is offensive. If our testimony was in vain, it will be a permanent stain on the reputation of this Government, and I believe that many other families will pay a heavy price in press mistreatment.”

    Sometimes it seems as if our politicians just don’t know what the right thing to do is. Just like in the past, they seem to be so compromised by their own relationships with the press that they are unable to see what needs to be done for the sake of the public. And that is exactly what the newspapers want. They want politicians to squabble and manoeuvre, so that they get to carry on business as usual. They need a compliant Government to tiptoe around them and avoid hurting their feelings. (...)

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  39. It’s obvious that no one wants the Government to shackle the press. What we all want is a free press –indeed Leveson would enshrine it- but we need a free press which is both responsible and accountable- two values which are in short supply. So that if the press trample on people, they have some remedy.

    We need a proper watchdog whose independence and effectiveness is guaranteed. That is what Leveson recommends. He says the press can regulate themselves, on condition that their regulator meets some basic standards. He says what those standards are, and he says there must be an independent body that checks those standards are met. He says that it is essential- not desirable, ESSENTIAL- that the body carrying out the checks is set up in statute, though it must be completely free of political influence after that.

    Considering what the press has been doing to people, they should see that as a good deal. All the polls show that is what the public thinks. And it looks as though most parliamentarians think that too.

    Leveson without the law is no change. It’s the PCC all over again. It’s the world we know, of newspapers abusing innocent families with impunity. What happened to us would happen to other British families in the future.

    It is up to our Prime Minister and our other politicians to prevent that. He promised he would. To keep his promise, all he has to do is follow what Leveson said, and put the Leveson recommendations into law through parliament, without meddling and back-door deals. And without checking whether the press is happy about it.

    There can’t be any half measures or compromises. Leveson made many concessions to the press so his recommendations are already a compromise. In fact they are the minimum acceptable compromise for the people who, in the Prime Minister’s words, were “picked up and thrown to the wolves.” That is us. That is Kate and I, and some of the people in this room, and many other people around the country.

    I said at the beginning that we are at a crossroads. Please, this time, let’s choose the right road.

    http://hackinginquiry.org/news/leveson-without-the-law-is-no-change-gerry-mccann/

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  40. Hi Joana I hope you are well. Thank you for posting this, it's a very powerful speach that will I am sure if reported on ruffle the feathers of many many people. I don't think McCann was (by any means) the right person to deliver this. Do you know if it was video recorded as I would welcome the opportunitity of seeing his body language. For a man hell bent on self portrayal I suspect it will be typically cringe making. Heho. All the best, regards Brian

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  41. Whatever public opinion as to Leveson, his recommendations with regards press reporting, whatever their view is, is theirs to have.
    But I cannot read McCanns words and feel any sympathy for him. The points he raised mirror what the couple themselves have acted out. How them themselves have behaved. Perhaps this is how he was able to write the speech he did!

    McCann speaking therefore takes away from the Hacked Off Campaign. His speaking for them makes it very much less credible.

    The following my reply to the points he made.


    McCann -

    “Our elected politicians face a critical choice. They can either do what Leveson recommends – wholeheartedly and properly – or they can turn their backs on the issue, and turn their backs on us, the victims of press abuse.:

    REPLY -

    MADELEINE was a victim of abuse, of neglect, an abuse of her rights to be cared for and protected.

    The adults who holidayed in Portugal from where the child disappeared faced a critical choice – they could either do as the Portuguese Police requested of them, co-operate by answering questions, take part in a reconstruction of the night the child vanished, or turn their backs on her.

    They turned their backs!

    McCann-

    We were subjected to round-the-clock intrusion at a time of terrible stress, with photographers camped outside our door.

    REPLY -

    And much of the time being that was at the request of Clarence Mitchell his PR man drafted in at a cost of £70,000 per annum to shape the stories certain sections of the press would publish!

    McCann -

    We were intimidated. Our young children, especially, were scared out of their wits.

    REPLY -

    The McCann children when left alone in the unlocked holiday apartment in a country foreign to them, crying upset and afraid one witness stating the cries lasted for over an hour on one of the FIVE consecutive nights these children were left SCARED OUT OF THEIR WITS.


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    McCann -

    • My wife’s private diary, revealing her innermost thoughts in her darkest days, was published without her consent.

    REPLY -

    A lot of her dark days were spent, according to her diary, jogging, shopping, preparing for the couples next PRESS conference, where Kate is delighted that Gerry once again puts in a GREAT PERFORMANCE, arranging visits with the Pope, flying around Europe leaving their twin children behind and dining out with celebrities, drinking brandy!

    And did not this woman SPLASH of her own accord some of the most awful details supposed of her dark days, and dare I saw it, her sex life across the PRESS? But then she was PAID for this – so that is okay then.


    McCann -

    • Rumours were dressed up as the truth

    REPLY -

    That has been the norm in the McCann case – many times they have dressed up something which is not truthful to appear as though it were.

    McCann -

    and downright lies became front-page news. One newspaper claimed that we sold Madeleine into slavery in order to pay off our mortgage.

    REPLY -

    Indeed many DOWNRIGHT lies became front page news. The lies told about the Portuguese police for one. And one can see how perhaps such a rumour as paying of their mortgage could come about.

    They DID in fact make a number of payments from the MADELEINE FUND to do exactly that – pay their mortgage!

    McCann -

    The slurs went on for months- despite our best efforts: Meetings with editors, assurances from our lawyers, a letter from the chief constable of Leicestershire police calling for restraint- all ignored. And they continued for the simple reason that there was no-one and nothing with the power to stop them.

    REPLY -

    Yes they did go on and on and still do despite best efforts to stop the McCanns in their tracks, still there are the shaped stories by Mitchell condemning others – Any call for restraint from McCann camp ignored.

    McCann -

    People say: ‘Your experience was so unusual, we can’t draw any lessons from it.’ Well I disagree. Our experience was extreme, but it was a consequence of the same sick culture that led to the abuse of many other people, some of whom are here in this room today.

    REPLY -

    Oh it is rather unusual for parents to leave three little kids alone night after night – it was extreme – extremely cruel. But abuse of children is part of a sick culture, and when it is not addressed, when perpetrators are not punished, but protected, it leads to the abuse of many other children.


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    McCann -

    An insatiable hunt for headlines combined with a total lack of respect for other people. The mentality that can turn a family’s distress into cold, hard cash. Profit from misery.

    REPLY -

    Absolutely – the McCanns hunt for headlines has been insatiable that is for sure – and it shows a total lack of respect for others. Their mentality has without question turned the distress of other families into cold hard cash. Their aim to profit from misery! The families of Goncalo Amaral and T. Bennett but two.


    McCann –

    In our case it led to the sacrifice, not only of the truth, but of our dignity, privacy, well-being and most importantly the search for our missing daughter, Madeleine.

    REPLY -

    No they did not sacrifice their dignity, they sacrificed Madeleine!
    Neither, honest, dignified or honourable!

    And once more we hear that the search for Madeleine was affected, so everybody and everyone is responsible for their daughter not being here, what a quaint idea!

    McCann –

    I believe we have a responsibility, as decent citizens in a democratic and caring society, to learn lessons from it

    REPLY -

    I believe that as the parents of the missing child you have more than a responsibility to learn from what you did to your children which affected each and every one of them, Madeleine paying highest price. But I will not hold my breath for that one!

    McCann re
    The parliamentary select committee on the media said in 2010:

    Three years later, I see little remorse, no contrition. Sections of the press are still in denial. The sick culture has not changed, and they can’t be trusted to change it of their own accord.

    REPLY -

    Never a truer word spoken!. Almost 6 years on since Madeleine vanished and I see no remorse, no contrition for what they did to the child for what they allowed happen. It is this sick irresponsible culture which has not changed in neglectful parents. Still the McCann are in denial. They will never change of their own accord.

    McCann -

    The reason Kate and I put ourselves through the ordeal of giving evidence to Leveson was simple: Nobody should have to endure what we went through. A system has to be put in place to protect ordinary people from the devastating damage that the media can cause.

    REPLY -

    More simply – No one, no child should be put through the ordeal,the fear that the McCann children were by their neglectful behaviour. They should never have had to endure the suffering which they did, never have had to go through this, and the outcome so devastating, a child lost! The damage caused by their irresponsible actions.

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    McCann -

    When David Cameron set up the Leveson Inquiry he said in parliament: “We must keep the public – and the victims of what has now emerged – front and centre at all times.” And he also said: ‘We will have to be guided by what the inquiry finds.”

    REPLY -

    I am so glad to hear that McCann feels the public should be guided by what the inquiry finds. As the police inquiry in Portugal found that the evidence/information gathered pointed to parental involvement in the child’s disappearance!

    McCann -

    When he gave his own evidence to the Leveson inquiry he promised to protect the people who have been thrown to the wolves as we were. We saw this as grounds for hope that we’d see real change.


    REPLY -

    When McCanns gave their own evidence at police inquiry, the public saw this as grounds for hope, that we would see real change – that they would stick to one story and not continue to REFUSE TO CO-OPERATE WITH THE INVESTIGATION. Madeleine’s hopes were dashed she was thrown to the wolves!

    McCann -

    What Leveson proposed last November is not tough on the press and it’s not a threat to free speech. For me personally, he did not go far enough. It seems to me that the judge did everything he could to make his proposals workable for the newspapers while giving the public some protection.

    REPLY –

    What Portuguese and British Police proposed to McCanns was not tough on them – asking for the truth, co-operation never is. It is not a threat unless you have something to hide. For me, personally, police did not go far enough, they were soft on them.

    McCann -

    In the end they get to regulate themselves, which is something very few industries are allowed to do, and which many people felt they had lost the right to do so.

    REPLY –

    It is not the end yet, but on the road there, McCanns have been allowed to ‘regulate’ having books banned, silencing by threats from their solicitors Carter Ruck, SOMETHING which NO parents of the missing child, the parents who remain the prime suspects though unofficially, get to do, and which many people feel that had NO right from start to have.

    McCann -

    For us and for other victims of press abuses, Leveson’s proposal is the minimum acceptable compromise – and, judging by the opinion polls, the public feels the same way.

    REPLY – For us the public and all children, victims of abuse in whatever form, there is NO compromise. It is NOT acceptable full stop!

    McCann -

    But what has happened? Two and a half months on we can see precious little progress towards implementation of Leveson, and we are hearing backsliding words from politicians. This is an opportunity for our elected MP’s, whose reputation with the British public is at an all time low, to redeem themselves. The Leveson report is not something to be negotiated with their friends in the press. Any watering down of the Leveson plan now, whether in a Bill or a Royal Charter or whatever, would be like surrendering to the press and saying the whole Leveson process was a waste of time.

    REPLY -

    Almost 6 years on and WE can see precious little progress towards the McCanns and their group of friends offering to re-open this case by whatever means they can, and they CAN, to help discover what became of this child. Their reputation is at an ALL TIME LOW. Their backslidings words are all we hear– Whatever happened to WE WILL LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED?
    A child’s life is NOT something they should have been negotiating with police the many letters back and forth while they decided whether to assist with the inquiries quite shocking! Can they the McCanns EVER redeem themselves?

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    McCann -

    And the idea that Kate and I, and all those other victims, might have relived our darkest days in the full glare of the media, for no good reason, is offensive. If our testimony was in vain, it will be a permanent stain on the reputation of this Government, and I believe that many other families will pay a heavy price in press mistreatment.”

    REPLY -

    And the idea, that McCann thinks for an instant that all will believe his ‘re-living his darkest days’ comment to be an honest and truthful one – is offensive! This group of adults who holidayed with the child, in the main medical professionals, their neglectful actions, their refusal to assist police in the investigation, leaves a permanent stain on the British families who they claimed, behaved in the same way as they did, that we put our children to bed and then abandoned them. I believe many children will pay a heavy price, the mistreatment the McCann children suffered has gone unpunished. They have had fancy lawyers, press stories shaped, and put out for public consumption declaring that what they did was WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF RESPONSIBLE PARENTING.

    This only serves to give abusers the green light!





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  46. cntd

    McCann –

    Sometimes it seems as if our politicians just don’t know what the right thing to do is. Just like in the past, they seem to be so compromised by their own relationships with the press that they are unable to see what needs to be done for the sake of the public. And that is exactly what the newspapers want. They want politicians to squabble and manoeuvre, so that they get to carry on business as usual. They need a compliant Government to tiptoe around them and avoid hurting their feelings. (...)

    REPLY -

    Sometimes it seems these parents just don’t know what the right thing to do is.

    Just like now as in past, they compromise ever finding this child by their refusal to co-operate with the police – failing or CHOOSING not to see what needs to be done for the sake of Madeleine.
    McCanns want everyone to tiptoe around them, be compliant, so that they can carry on BUSINESS AS USUAL – as though a wee girl by the name of Madeleine never vanished in Praia da Luz, Portugal, their wee girl. They want the public to squabble take sides, detract from the real issue – the missing child and their negligence and more probably much more!

    McCann -

    It’s obvious that no one wants the Government to shackle the press. What we all want is a free press –indeed Leveson would enshrine it- but we need a free press which is both responsible and accountable- two values which are in short supply. So that if the press trample on people, they have some remedy.

    REPLY -

    Is it obvious? Obvious to me McCann does! All the public want from McCanns is for them to act responsibly, be accountable, two values which quite clearly are in short supply. And when they trample on others, using the Fund monies donated for Madeleine to do so, there is some remedy!

    McCann –

    We need a proper watchdog whose independence and effectiveness is guaranteed. That is what Leveson recommends. He says the press can regulate themselves, on condition that their regulator meets some basic standards. He says what those standards are, and he says there must be an independent body that checks those standards are met. He says that it is essential- not desirable, ESSENTIAL- that the body carrying out the checks is set up in statute, though it must be completely free of political influence after that.

    Considering what the press has been doing to people, they should see that as a good deal. All the polls show that is what the public thinks. And it looks as though most parliamentarians think that too.

    REPLY –

    It is ESSENTIAL that the McCanns and friend step up to the mark for Madeleine, no half measures completely free of political influence, the financial backing of others which allows them to trample innocents.

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    McCann -

    Leveson without the law is no change. It’s the PCC all over again. It’s the world we know, of newspapers abusing innocent families with impunity. What happened to us would happen to other British families in the future.

    It is up to our Prime Minister and our other politicians to prevent that. He promised he would. To keep his promise, all he has to do is follow what Leveson said, and put the Leveson recommendations into law through parliament, without meddling and back-door deals. And without checking whether the press is happy about it.

    There can’t be any half measures or compromises. Leveson made many concessions to the press so his recommendations are already a compromise. In fact they are the minimum acceptable compromise for the people who, in the Prime Minister’s words, were “picked up and thrown to the wolves.” That is us. That is Kate and I, and some of the people in this room, and many other people around the country.

    I said at the beginning that we are at a crossroads. Please, this time, let’s choose the right road.

    REPLY -

    Seems McCann needs to call on his pal Brooks to again twist Camerons arm if McCann wants Cameron to keep his promises – oops she’s already been charged with meddling and back-door deals – the deal done on behalf of McCanns!

    The person I can see who was thrown to wolves is Madeleine.

    I said at the beginning, there is no crossroads, there is but one road – the RIGHT ROAD, but McCanns just refuse to go down it.


    McCann very much the wrong choice to represent this group today. It took from the core issue.

    When one knows what the McCanns have done to their children, their dealings with press, the stories they themselves have put out there - it is nothing short the most astonishing arrogance and hypocrisy!

    Such a great pity as there are genuine victims!



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  48. The Gall of Gerry McCann

    http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Gerry_s_Gall.html

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  49. Após viagem breve pelas edições online dos jornais- Gerry está fora destas edições. O que quer que tenha dito, não teve eco em Portugal...foi irrelevante, supérfluo, "USELESS".
    No nosso rectângulo, outro acontecimento foi mais uma pedrada no charco dos Mccann- o autor e a editora do livro "Diamantes de sangue" foram ilibados da acusaçao de difamação dos generais angolanos com base nos direitos de opinião - o direito à Liberdade de Expressão.

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  50. "Prime Minister David Cameron has rejected Lord Leveson's recommendation that press regulation be backed by statute, saying such a move would "cross the Rubicon" after centuries of press freedom."
    In Sky News

    Did that mean a "NON" to Mccann's wishes?

    I still shocked with the way the Mccann's are assaulting that issue. How many were the victims of the hackers and the bad behavior of the press? Many, many, but we just see Mccann's everywhere like an infection, always to promote their victim image. They forgot the other side of that story... The millions that fall on their bank accounts coming from newspapers without the evaluation of a court, and the millions coming from donations. They became millionnaires, with help of the media who help them promote a campaign of lies and misinformation. Now, they want to shut up that media and fade to enjoy the good life that money can offer to them.
    If they keep feeding their story, they will need the lawyers and the PR machine for longer. The Fund will be not enough to feed all that mouths, then the only way to get out of that is stopping the story without having to reopen the investigation and allow Portugal to do a proper trial. To achieve that, they desperatlely are trying to close the mouths of what they can control and manipulate- the British courts, for what the last trial of TB was an example, and the British media. If they manage to achieve that goals, next they will try internet.
    Something really bad, was going on at the OC on April/May 2007 that allows all that charade to go on.

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  51. Hello @52

    ""Prime Minister David Cameron has rejected Lord Leveson's recommendation that press regulation be backed by statute, saying such a move would "cross the Rubicon" after centuries of press freedom."
    In Sky News

    Did that mean a "NON" to Mccann's wishes?

    More than likely it will be a diplomatic political compromise something between a NO and a YES.

    If I had to choose between keeping those nasty but helpful when in need wolves at bay or pandering to Mr. Gerry I wouldnt loose any sleep over which way to go.

    I doubt Mr. Camerons government want to go down in history as the ones that rocked the boat ("cross the Rubicon")

    Sandra Ryan

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  52. How many more families have to be stalked and upset in pursuit of a poor little child who died from neglect. I hope that along with Mr. Amaral, they all sue the Mccanns for their lies and deceit.

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  53. It's not Madeleine? And I was SOOOO sure it was going to be ... THIS time.

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  54. Some thoughts: On the 26th of April 2012, the McCanns finally returned the books to Amaral http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/04/breaking-news-goncalo-amarals-book.html From the 25th of April and in the following days, DCI Andy Redwood became Clarence Mitchell, speaking in several UK channels and on the second McCannorama broadcast - stating that Madeleine had been abducted even before the inquiry had reached its end. Then the absurd 195 "potential leads", that Madeleine was like Schrödinger's cat , etc. Last month, just one day after it was published in Portugal that the McCanns had asked for an out of court settlement with Gonçalo Amaral we had the Brazilian hoax story http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/371953/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-photo-shock mentioning Scotland Yard. The spin wasn't echoed anywhere thus the need for a new story. And here we are, February 12, looking at another sighting story that had already been dismissed by NZ police on January 4, 2012. Who was behind this story, used profitably by the McCann's spin doctor? Who did the request and leaked it to the media? If it was to coincide with with TB's trial or to suppress news regarding the out of court settlement, or to suppress both is anyone's guess.

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  55. @42 Hi Brian, couldn't find any video from the Not hacked off Gerry McCann's scripted speech. There are very few stockphotos available this time. Don't think journalists and photojournalists in particular are impressed with the McCann's latest media stunt.

    @51 "Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost." Alfred Whitney Griswold, New York Times, 24 February 1959 Blood Diamonds: Angolan Generals Defeated in Court Case in Portugal

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  56. «The likes of Cathcart and Hacked Off, however, are so attached to the state as the agent of progress that they can see nothing wrong with a judge proposing how far to turn the clock back on press freedom. For Cathcart, Lord Justice Leveson was ‘very much the honest seeker after truth’, almost an apostolic figure. He even cites supportively the evidence of the top Metropolitan cop Sue Akers, who baldly told the inquiry that there had been a ‘culture’ of criminality at the Sun – when many journalists had been arrested but nobody had been convicted – and that the stories the tabloids had acquired through illegal methods were not of ‘genuine public interest’. The idea of a senior police officer holding forth on what sort of stories the press should publish is not one we might normally associate with a healthy democracy. Yet Cathcart happily calls Akers as a witness for the prosecution of the press.

    Perhaps the most bizarre argument in this respect is Cathcart’s claim that the role of Shami Chakrabarti, head of the civil-rights group Liberty, on Leveson’s panel of experts proves that the inquiry posed no threat to freedom of expression. What Chakrabarti’s role really demonstrated, of course, was that the idea of liberty has become so degraded on the liberal-left that she could pose as a freedom fighter while sitting on the modern version of the Crown’s Star Chamber in judgement of press freedom.

    For this book, the problem is not that the state might dominate the media, but that we live under a ‘media-run state’. The idiotic radical conspiracism of this I-blame-the-meejah line has become all-too familiar in almost every political debate. Of course the press is powerful, but largely by default. Its heightened influence in political life is a side effect of the decline of political parties and the loss of democratic authority. The media remains a reflection of the wider society it reports and helps to shape. Yet the one-eyed left sees the tabloids as the cause of just about all our ills. Cathcart even seems to imagine that the Tory government’s 1989 warning that the popular press was drinking in the ‘last chance saloon’ was a response to the Sun’s outrageous reporting of the Hillsborough disaster, entirely ignoring the Tories’ central role in bringing about that tragedy and covering it up.

    All of these arguments are presented as a radical case against a press that is said to be only interested in ‘corporate profit’. Are Hacked Off and their allies pursuing an anti-capitalism agenda, then? Hardly. Behind this leftish language lies an attack on the masses who are allegedly mug enough to line the pockets of the likes of Rupert Murdoch. As ever through history, the vitriol aimed at the popular press is essentially a coded expression of fear and loathing for the populace.» in "What’s left of press freedom?
    The founder of Hacked Off’s book reveals how radical lobbyists wrote the illiberal script for the Leveson Inquiry.
    by Mick Hume" here in full http://www.spiked-online.com/site/reviewofbooks_article/13203/

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  57. Read as well: How British Control Freaks Exploited a Scandal To Impose Press Regulations http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/04/how-british-control-freaks-group-exploit

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  58. Hi Joana thanks for looking into that for me. Cheers Brian

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  59. Here's an extract from the Hacked Off key note speach delivered yesterday...

    "To keep his promises all he has to do is follow what Leveson said and put the Leveson recommendations into law through parliament without meddling in back door dealing and without checking that the press is happy with it."
    Gerry McCann

    Talk about wagging the finger and biting the hand that feeds. Gerry McCann is drunk with self importance. I can't imagine Mr Cameron will be jumping with enthusiasm at the words used in the McCann rhetoric... meddling...backdoor dealing. Wow!!!
    Brian

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  60. It's time for the MET operation Grange to make a stand. £3.5 million & nearly two years, is long enough to REVIEW a case and chase around the world checking out such stories as this one.
    Either they support the abduction scenario or they don't. They can't sit the fence forever.
    IMHO their (MET's) continued presence adds fuel to these types of sightings.
    I've no idea about the statistics and data analysis in such cases. But I bet there is some correlation from the immediate aftermath then subsequent media exposure & appeals.
    Does each red-herring incite the next sighting? what is the data? What is the correlation.
    But I stand firm in one belief, as I have from the start IF this was an abduction and IF Madeleine is alive (which I don't believe) she will never been sighted\eye-balled. It will be behaviour\behavioural patterns of her or those around her.
    These patterns are fast running out of exposure, like the need of a dentist, schooling or other medical needs etc. Schooling for example could be the child who doesn't attend!
    Which brings us full circle to the last blog here and the delay in the case against Sr Amaral, what and when is the METs move if ever, going to be?
    But May beckons as it always does & a few more rabbits out of the bag to mark another year. The month of May & court appearances will not go down to well with the PR machine.

    I note this weeks Hackoff spokesperson never said thank you to Rebecca Brooks for her sterling work in prompting the Sun's readership to support the case review, ah silly me, that never happened!! You can play the press for so long, but when it bites back, BEWARE !

    Meadow

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  61. Gerry McCann, the new Murdoch "churnalist" who wants to silence the rest of the press. - The hypocrisy! http://news.sky.com/story/1051615/leveson-without-the-law-is-no-change

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  62. http://www.news1130.com/2013/02/12/queen-elizabeth-ii-tops-list-of-britains-most-powerful-women/
    Elisabeth Murdoch among the five most powerful women in Britain.

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  63. Gerry McCann says

    'Stories were published saying our daughter was dead over and over again, with no evidence'.

    The bloody nerve of this man who has been saying over and over again that 'MADELEINE WAS ABDUCTED' with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER TO BACK THAT UP.

    The investigators, both Portuguese and UK who worked on the case believed there was evidence enough that Madeleine had died in the apartment, because that is the conclusion they reached and even requested the McCanns to return the body.

    Meanwhile, the McCanns are allowed to continue brainwashing the public, now with the aid of Levison, that their unproven 'abduction story' is a fact, and there must be no further mention of the dogs, or the suggestion of paedophile activity within their own group, as related by one of their own doctor friends, no mention of the Smith sighting which pointed towards the man carrying the child being Gerry McCann himself, etc.

    Whatever happened to Madeleine, and where she is now, must be far removed from that holiday apartment and the McCanns and their pals, and especially kept to a search of the wide world, excluding the UK and their own property at Rothly of course, which should have been searched, as were the homes of Murat and his family, but for some reason the McCanns were given a pass.

    Now we have to wonder what SY, with their million pound 'review', requested by the McCanns, and ordered by Cameron to bring 'closure for the McCanns', has in store for us.

    As if we can't already join the dots!!

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  64. posts 43 - 49
    I fully agree and immediately thought the same as you when I read his ridiculous statement.
    auny anti

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  65. "The sighting is the second of the same girl, the first being in March 2012. At that time Operation Grange did not exist and therefore there was no follow-up request for a DNA test by British authorities."

    I thought Operation Grange has been ongoing since May 11?????

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  66. Is it fair to say that Team McCann courted the media when the media suited their aims (as is their right)?

    Is it also fair to say that Team McCann slated the media when the media didn't suit their aims? (as is their right also)?

    BUT there's the disconnect and danger - and without wishing anyone ill..cherry picking not an option, I'm afraid

    A certain princess played a very similar game with the media

    and that ultimately, all ended in tragedy in a Paris underpass.

    I gave the McCanns the benefit of the doubt for a long while - until that dreadful and simply tasteless book written by Kate McCann.

    Short of Gerry McCann stopping to play the statesman immediately and Kate McCann very belatedly, starting to answer the 48 questions honestly and in full - nothing could restore any kind of faith in me - that I had in the parents for years.

    Not that I give much for vox pops - but there is a definite sea change in the general population regarding the McCanns,
    judging from comments on media websites in the UK right now.

    If I was their PR advisor (and we know, PR matters to them, else they wouldn't have advisors in that field in the first place) - I'd advise them to spend ALL their energy as of now on the twins and Madeleine and zilch attention on playing media politics.

    - truth be told - most folks in the UK roll their eyes to the heavens nowadays - when the 'Team' tries to hug the headlines yet again.

    Either NSY comes up with a breakthrough in this matter shortly - or it's time to give the 'case/campaign/awareness drive'

    a rest



    IMHO
    isar

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  67. Retailer ‘glad’ about Mccann DNA test fail
    4 Feb 2013, The Southland Times, Brooke Gardinerin, Queenstown



    The Queenstown retailer who contacted police after spotting a Madeleine McCann lookalike was delighted to hear DNA tests had ruled the little girl out as being the missing British youngster.

    Madeleine was last seen at the Ocean Club complex in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007 just before her fourth birthday.

    Scotland Yard confirmed the little girl, who provided a DNA sample after being spotted in Queenstown on New Year’s Eve, was not the missing youngster, in a statement issued by New Zealand police yesterday afternoon.

    ‘‘I’m absolutely very glad that everybody can get on with their lives now,’’ the Queenstown woman said.

    The woman said she would never have been able to forget about the issue had the child not been DNA tested.

    ‘‘I think it was absolutely necessary to rule her out as she has been misidentified so often. It was necessary for the sake of her poor family in New Zealand and the McCanns.’’

    The DNA test was obtained by the New Zealand police at the request of Scotland Yard.

    The family of the girl agreed to give the DNA sample voluntarily but it did not provide a match to that of the missing child.

    Southern District crime services manager Detective Inspector Steve McGregor said at the time of the sighting police made thorough inquiries and were completely satisfied the girl was not Madeleine McCann.

    Queenstown police issued a statement to that effect, four days after the sighting.

    The DNA test result, requested by the British police’s Operation Grange which is investigating Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, supports and confirms the original New Zealand Police investigation into the matter, Mr McGregor said.

    The New Year’s Eve sighting was the second time the same child had been reported to police. The first sighting of her was made in March 2012.

    ‘‘At that time Operation Grange did not exist and therefore there was no follow-up request for a DNA test by British authorities.’’

    The family asked that their privacy continued to be respected and said they did not want any contact from media.

    paper version only

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  68. @68 journalists don't even bother with fact checking anymore. At the NZ police site, already linked in the article above, one can read their first media statement regarding this particular child.

    «Media Statement

    March 3, 2010, 4:49 pm

    Dunedin Police say that they did receive information from a member of the public who believed she saw Madeleine McCann in a Dunedin retail outlet in December 2007.

    Acting Southern District Commander, Inspector David Campbell, said police spoke with the informant to establish what had been seen and sought pictures from the retailer involved.

    A report was filed by an attending officer and police worked closely with the retailer to start an inquiry and obtained security footage of the child, who had the appearance of Madeleine McCann, and the family with her.

    Hard copies of the security pictures were given to police. Police then requested electronic copies but these were not available.

    Police were unable to obtain any further information or ongoing lines of inquiry.

    The file was forwarded to Interpol and this is correct procedure under international agreements. The lead jurisdiction, in this case, Portugal, directs how the case progresses and has not asked NZ Police for any follow-up to date.

    The file has remained open ever since, Inspector Campbell said.

    ENDS»

    https://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/22534.html

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  69. The NZ police issued another statement (for the record) in the following day.

    «Child not missing British girl

    March 4, 2010, 6:10 pm

    Dunedin Police have identified the child and family thought by a retail assistant to be missing British girl Madeleine McCann. She is not the missing British girl.

    Acting Southern Police District Commander Inspector Dave Campbell said police will not name the family or provide any details of their identity.

    "We ask that media outlets remove the image portraying the child and family from their coverage including websites to protect the privacy of the family.

    "New Zealand Police are mindful of the stress on the McCann family from possible sightings of their daughter worldwide," Inspector Campbell said.

    Police are making no further comment at this time.

    ENDS»

    https://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/22543.html

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  70. «Not In My Children's Lifetimes... ...would I wish to see Dr Gerry McCann's, or for that matter his wife's voice influence the legislation of this land. And no, I am not just an envious forker. I'm forking angry. Angry that anyone should attempt to gain social or other advantage at the expense of a child's life (see Shakespeare's Henry V, Act 4 Scene 7). Let it not be forgotten that Gerry McCann the orator is one and the same person as he who, since early May 2007, has done more to ensure that his missing daughter stays missing than he has ever done to repatriate her.» in full here http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

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  71. Gerry is still walking around and he is not yet behind bars.
    I wonder what is the Portuguese Justice waiting for before it happens.
    Most probably the Home Office and Cameron himself will read the Yard's conclusion and the decision to take Tapas 9 to Algarve will be made. A judge will decide that they will leave the UK but I believe that the efficient preparation to receive them in Portugal will take time.
    We just had carnival, I think everybody is back to work, let us hope that it will take a short time to reopen the process, before the Resurection and before the Holy Spirit shows up, flap flap flap.

    Gerry continues trying to manipulate god and the Earth, in order to escape punishment.

    He willn't.Like I said before, the crime was not perfect otherwise they would be living in peace now. The only thing he can do now is to control the media. He fears the news in the future.

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  72. Update on McCanns v Bennett, 14 February 2013

    Update on McCanns v Bennett Jill Havern Forum

    By Tony Bennett
    Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Mr Justice Tugendhat's Secretary has informed me that judgment in the case of McCanns v Bennett will be pronounced at 12noon on Thursday 21 February at the Royal Courts of Justice.

    If he finds that I have breached any undertakings, I will then be allowed time to make a short speech in mitigation.

    Then he will deliver his sentence.

    The hearing will once again be in open court.

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  73. off topic..as i dont post on forums anymore i wonder if someone could post this link so it could come to the attention of tony bennett as they expect the jury verdict soon thank you.
    Jurors have retired to consider a verdict in the defamation case taken by businessman Denis O’Brien against the Irish Daily Mail.

    Earlier today the High Court was told that the defamation case was about the “simple truth” of “the right to express an opinion”.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0214/breaking46.html

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  74. Os McCann vão deslocalizar a "fabrica de avistamentos" para leste.
    Mão de obra mais barata já se vê.
    Por meia dúzia de tustos até os moribundos confessam ter raptado a Madeleine.

    http://sol.sapo.pt/inicio/Sociedade/Interior.aspx?content_id=68259

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  75. It seems the attention turns to ex-USSR now: «The hunt for Madeleine McCann is switching to Russia and Ukraine at the request of her family, it was claimed yesterday.
    A charity searching for lost children in Moscow and Kiev said it had been asked by a source close to the McCanns to investigate. (...)» [http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-search-switches-russia-1711066 ]
    To complete the world map next they will probably go to China.

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  76. So now they are going to have people search in Russia. It gets dafter by the day! Outer Mongolia next perhaps? Don't the people in these places have enough children of their own that they must go all the way to PDL to kidnap little Madeleine!

    Yet it does keep the public's attention away from the findings of blood, and indications of death in the apartment, alerted to by the dogs, and the McCanns have tried their hardest to ridicule those 'ludicrous' dogs who are 'notoriously unreliable' according to Gerry McCann. They wish!, because those particular dogs have NEVER BEEN WRONG, so why should they be in the missing Madeleine case? Sorry Gerry McCann, but that is not something you will be able to sell the public if they know the true facts of the dogs working on the case.

    Reality must be avoided at all costs.

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